$10 NL HE STT: Flopped straight on monotone board getting donked into

[fundiver199]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

STT

Buy-in

10

Game Options

1. Turbo

Currency

$

Game is a 9-man SnG, opponent is an unknown. Do you make a big fold here, or perhaps get it in on the flop?

PokerStars, $9 + $1 - Hold'em No Limit - 15/30 (4 ante) - 9 players
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matyfaulkner (UTG): 1,207 (40 bb)
beliveau666 (UTG+1): 814 (27 bb)
Fundiver199 (MP): 1,478 (49 bb)
benz423 (MP+1): 1,814 (60 bb)
Vitamin-D69 (LP): 1,427 (48 bb)
Lohte0 (CO): 3,474 (116 bb)
TwoTooMax (BU): 1,327 (44 bb)
maxpower252 (SB): 1,337 (45 bb)
lundberg619 (BB): 622 (21 bb)

Pre-Flop: (81) Hero (Fundiver199) is MP with T♣ K♣
1 fold, beliveau666 (UTG+1) calls 30, Fundiver199 (MP) raises to 105, 6 players fold, beliveau666 (UTG+1) calls 75

Flop: (291) J♠ Q♠ A♠ (2 players)
beliveau666 (UTG+1) bets 291, Fundiver199 (MP) calls 291

Turn: (873) 8♣ (2 players)
beliveau666 (UTG+1) bets 414 (all-in), Fundiver199 (MP)?

 

[nabmom]

As played, I doubt I’m finding a fold here. He could have flipped a flush, but to me his behavior is more like pairs or maybe sets. And you use those beat. Raising on the flip probably generates the same end result (his pot-sized bet on the flip feels more like protection to me).

To be fair, at a full SnG table, early in the game, I’m playing more conservatively. But I’m a not!

 

[Matt_Burns88]

Against UTG+1 opening range, I think we're ahead of a lot here. If the board was lower, say J, 9, 8, I'd be a lot more concerned about flushes, but with the A and Q on board, that removes a huge amount of his suited hands the flop a flush, probably reducing it down to just KTs and K9s.

I think this is much more likely a set or two pair and would be prepared to go all the way with my straight here.

If villain were CO, BTN, SB or BB, I'd be much more cautious as their ranges are much wider and include a LOT of suited hands.

 

[fundiver199]

Against UTG+1 opening range

Just for clarification he limped and then called my raise.

 

[Matt_Burns88]

Just for clarification he limped and then called my raise.

Ah! How did I miss that?! That does change things quite dramatically. Suddenly he goes from having sets, two pair or air, to having a whole bunch of suited connectors and suited gappers and the spot is now really dicey. We're still ahead of sets, two pair and the lower turned straight, which might well play this way, so I think we make the crying call knowing that sometime he rocks up with 75s.

 

[monkeytilter]

What a horrible spot. I agree with nabom, tighter is righter here preflop - you have got yourself in a pickle early on in the SnG with a play that is more suited to trying to accumulate chips rather than preserving them and letting others benefit you by taking unforced risks.

As played you can definitely call it off based on the price and possible (non-flush) hands for villain and I think at this point I'd sigh call.

The alternative is make an heroic fold based on ICM, the chips you gain here are definitely worth less than the one you loose when you're beat and how you think your edge is against the field, if you have a big edge don't gamble with a call and save as much of a stack as you can to yield vs weaker players later.

This decision should have been made on the flop BTW! When villain makes such a committing bet on the flop I'd be asking myself how I would be playing the turn including a potential shove from him.

 

[puzzlefish]

I would expect to be up against something like a pair and flush draw or a set. I don't think I can find a fold with KT here. Call and he turns over two spades.

 

[fundiver199]

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[sibkaz]

Set or two pairs)

 

[schtiuky]

maybe pairs with 4 of a kind collor

 

[Matt_Burns88]

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Wow. Guy just pressed the detonate button with top pair, no kicker...and they say poker is dead...

 

[fundiver199]

Wow. Guy just pressed the detonate button with top pair, no kicker...and they say poker is dead...

As is apparent from his stack size, he must have lost one or more hands prior to this one. So perhaps a case of "fish on tilt"?

 

[kunkgreen]

Pre-flop:
Certainly a raise here is much better than just a call.

Flop:
Is there any made hand here where the villain would lead by betting the pot?
Coming from players who limp/call from UTG+1. Which ones would they be?

Maybe none, but in the villain's mind... Suited Aces? Weak Aces? Low suiteds? Something along those lines?
I believe that just calling to assess the turn is good enough, even if our hand doesn't improve much on the next streets.

Turn:
I can't find a fold here... Nothing changes, so I think it makes our call decision even easier.
And if the villain has already made or is about to make a possible flush, congratulations! lol



Well played!