$109 NL HE MTT: flush draws

[Geo90]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

109

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1. Bounty

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$

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (50 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 59,863 (150 bb)
UTG+1: 15,362 (38 bb)
MP (Hero): 27,923 (70 bb)
MP+1: 26,688 (67 bb)
CO: 12,043 (30 bb)
BU: 14,000 (35 bb)
SB: 14,431 (36 bb)
BB: 66,114 (165 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,000) Hero is MP with 9♦ 8♦
2 players fold, Hero raises to 800, 3 players fold, SB calls 600, BB calls 400

Flop: (2,800) 7♦ 9♥ 2♦ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 924, SB raises to 2,800, BB folds, Hero calls 1,876

Turn: (8,400) K♦ (2 players)
SB bets 2,840, Hero raises to 24,273 (all-in), SB calls 7,941 (all-in)

Preflop:I think raising preflop is fine.

Flop :I continue raising on the flop and get a 3bet. I have a strong hand, but if the flush comes, I'll probably be behind, since they can 3bet? Everything 9el 109+, flush draw, maybe 22 77 99,


Turn:Going all-in here may be too aggressive, but if he bets on the river, he will have so few chips left that I won't be able to fold, so I went all-in.

 

[Geo90]

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (50 ante) - 8 players
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parabellum (UTG): 10,800 (27 bb)
goldengaze1 (UTG+1): 13,893 (35 bb)
El_hombre (MP): 11,323 (28 bb)
BeerShake (MP+1): 17,281 (43 bb)
VeiDoRiO (CO): 25,768 (64 bb)
RosaElefant (BU): 53,289 (133 bb)
Chesenuts (SB): 38,073 (95 bb)
Gyurika90 (BB): 35,997 (90 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,000) Hero (Gyurika90) is BB with Q♣ 3♣
5 players fold, RosaElefant (BU) calls 400, Chesenuts (SB) calls 200, Gyurika90 (BB) checks

Flop: (1,600) 4♦ T♣ A♣ (3 players)
Chesenuts (SB) checks, Gyurika90 (BB) checks, RosaElefant (BU) bets 800, Chesenuts (SB) folds, Gyurika90 (BB) raises to 2,400, RosaElefant (BU) calls 1,600

Turn: (6,400) 2♠ (2 players)
Gyurika90 (BB) bets 4,224, RosaElefant (BU) calls 4,224

River: (14,848) T♦ (2 players)
Gyurika90 (BB) checks, RosaElefant (BU) checks

Would it be better to go to River Allin here?

Flop 3 bet is fine, I think, I have a strong draw



River Pass, my opponent passed, so I continued raising, he might have a straight draw or possibly a second pair

Or am I playing these theater tricks completely wrong?

 

[fundiver199]

Hand 1 98s

Preflop
You can open here or fold, it wont matter much in the long run. If you are going to open, I am not a huge fan of just min-raising, when you are this deep.

Flop
You have a pair+draw type hand, and these often play well as a check back, since you can basically continue on all turns, unless someone jam or something crazy. However making a small bet does have some equity denial benefits, and unless you get raised or face a donk bet on the turn, it allow you to control the turn action and take a free card, when you want to. Now you get raised, and I think, the only play here is to call. Folding is to tight, and 3-betting is an overplay.

Turn
You make your flush and face a small bet. At this point the only question is, do you slowplay and just call, or do you raise and get it in now? The reason for just calling is, that it allow him to bluff the river with his missed draws. However I like that play a lot more with a good flush ideally the A high flush.

With a low flush you really dont want to see yet another diamond on the river, and of course its also not great, if the board pair. So I think, its fine to get it in now. You will get called by worse hands often enough, and if he fold a hand with a single high diamond or a set, then at least you get protection.

This is very different from the other hand, where you folded a K high flushdraw to a turn raise, because you are only against a single opponent now (although 3 saw the flop), you are only around 30BB effective (as opposed to 125BB), and the board is not paired. For those reasons even a low flush is easily good enough to play for all the chips.

Hand 2 Q3s

Preflop
No need to raise this hand, seeing a free flop is perfect.

Flop
Since this is a limped pot, there is no such thing as naturally checking to the preflop raiser. And I kind of prefer to lead out here and take the initiative right away. If either opponent had a strong AX, they would probably have raised preflop, so there is a real chance to take it home already, and if you get action, then you have decent equity.

Instead you go for a check-raise, and I am not completely in love with this play. BTN limped with a deep stack, which is very fishy, and I dont expect a fish to bet-fold very often, and especially not if he has a hand like top pair bad kicker. The pot is also still very small, so you are not putting his stack at risk. And for those reasons, if you are going to check, I lean towards check-calling and basically trying to get there.

Turn
Complete brick, and if he has top pair, I dont think, he will fold it to another bet. On the other hand he might check it back, if you check to him, because you raised him on the flop. So I would check now and then make a math based decision, if he bet again.

River
This is not a good card for you to represent, because you are probably not raising second pair on the flop. So an A will likely call again, and if BTN is a real drooler, he might even have a T some percentage of the time, which is obviously not folding, now that it became trips. Maybe you can get him to fold the K high flushdraw specifically, but thats not enough to make a profitable bluff, so as played I would give up and let him win the pot.

 

[Geo90]

Hand 1 98s

Preflop
You can open here or fold, it wont matter much in the long run. If you are going to open, I am not a huge fan of just min-raising, when you are this deep.

Flop
You have a pair+draw type hand, and these often play well as a check back, since you can basically continue on all turns, unless someone jam or something crazy. However making a small bet does have some equity denial benefits, and unless you get raised or face a donk bet on the turn, it allow you to control the turn action and take a free card, when you want to. Now you get raised, and I think, the only play here is to call. Folding is to tight, and 3-betting is an overplay.

Turn
You make your flush and face a small bet. At this point the only question is, do you slowplay and just call, or do you raise and get it in now? The reason for just calling is, that it allow him to bluff the river with his missed draws. However I like that play a lot more with a good flush ideally the A high flush.

With a low flush you really dont want to see yet another diamond on the river, and of course its also not great, if the board pair. So I think, its fine to get it in now. You will get called by worse hands often enough, and if he fold a hand with a single high diamond or a set, then at least you get protection.

This is very different from the other hand, where you folded a K high flushdraw to a turn raise, because you are only against a single opponent now (although 3 saw the flop), you are only around 30BB effective (as opposed to 125BB), and the board is not paired. For those reasons even a low flush is easily good enough to play for all the chips.

Hand 2 Q3s

Preflop
No need to raise this hand, seeing a free flop is perfect.

Flop
Since this is a limped pot, there is no such thing as naturally checking to the preflop raiser. And I kind of prefer to lead out here and take the initiative right away. If either opponent had a strong AX, they would probably have raised preflop, so there is a real chance to take it home already, and if you get action, then you have decent equity.

Instead you go for a check-raise, and I am not completely in love with this play. BTN limped with a deep stack, which is very fishy, and I dont expect a fish to bet-fold very often, and especially not if he has a hand like top pair bad kicker. The pot is also still very small, so you are not putting his stack at risk. And for those reasons, if you are going to check, I lean towards check-calling and basically trying to get there.

Turn
Complete brick, and if he has top pair, I dont think, he will fold it to another bet. On the other hand he might check it back, if you check to him, because you raised him on the flop. So I would check now and then make a math based decision, if he bet again.

River
This is not a good card for you to represent, because you are probably not raising second pair on the flop. So an A will likely call again, and if BTN is a real drooler, he might even have a T some percentage of the time, which is obviously not folding, now that it became trips. Maybe you can get him to fold the K high flushdraw specifically, but thats not enough to make a profitable bluff, so as played I would give up and let him win the pot.

Thank you for your detailed analysis, it was very helpful!

98S


I'm trying to use Bencb's range now, it opens a little wider, I usually open 2.5BB, but here I don't know why it became 2BB


Türnön IF I had my A color, I would have played that way, but as you wrote, I wanted to protect my cards, and if another diamond came, I would have had to fold.


I understand the difference between the two situations.


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[Geo90]

1. kéz 98-asok

Preflop
Nyithatsz itt, vagy dobhatsz, hosszú távon nem fog sokat számítani. Ha nyitni akarsz, nem vagyok nagy híve a minimális emelésnek, amikor ilyen mély a téted.

Flop
Pár+húzó típusú lapjaid vannak, és ezek gyakran jól működnek check backként, mivel gyakorlatilag minden turnön folytathatod a tétet, kivéve, ha valaki allin megy, vagy valami őrültség történik. Azonban egy kis tétnek is vannak előnyei, amelyek a részesedést csökkentik, és hacsak nem emelnek, vagy nem szembesülsz egy donk bettel a turnön, akkor kontrollálhatod a turn akcióját, és ingyen lapot kaphatsz, amikor csak akarsz. Most emelnek, és szerintem az egyetlen játék itt a megadás. A dobás túl szoros, a 3-bet pedig túlzás.

Fordulat
Összeállítod a flössed, és egy kis téttel nézel szembe. Ezen a ponton már csak az a kérdés, hogy slowplayelsz és egyszerűen megadod-e, vagy emelsz és most beteszel? A csak megadás oka az, hogy így blöffölhet a riveren az elszalasztott húzólapjaival. Én azonban sokkal jobban szeretem ezt a játékot egy jó flösssel, ideális esetben egy A magas flösssel.

Alacsony flössnél nem akarsz még egy gyémántot látni a riveren, és persze az sem jó, ha az asztal páros. Szóval szerintem nyugodtan beteheted most. Rosszabb kezek is gyakran megadnak majd, és ha eldob egy kezet egyetlen magas gyémánttal vagy egy szettel, akkor legalább védelmet kapsz.

Ez nagyon különbözik a másik leosztástól, ahol egy K magas flush-t dobtál egy turn emelésre, mivel most már csak egyetlen ellenféllel vagy szemben (bár hárman látták a flopot), csak körülbelül 30BB-d van effektíven (szemben a 125BB-vel), és az asztal nem párosított. Ezen okok miatt még egy alacsony flush is könnyen elég jó ahhoz, hogy az összes zsetonért játssz.

2. leosztás: Q3s

Preflop
Nem kell emelni ezt a tétet, egy ingyenes flop tökéletes.

Flop
Mivel ez egy limpelt pot, nincs olyan, hogy természetesen passzolj a preflop emelőre. És én inkább azt szeretem, ha itt nyitok és azonnal átveszem a kezdeményezést. Ha bármelyik ellenfélnek erős AX-e lett volna, valószínűleg preflop emelt volna, így valós esély van arra, hogy már most hazavigyed, és ha akciód van, akkor tisztességes részesedésed van.

Ehelyett inkább check-raise-ezek, és én nem vagyok teljesen oda ezért a játékért. BTN deep stackkel limpelt, ami nagyon gyanús, és nem várom el egy fish-től, hogy gyakran bet-fold, főleg nem akkor, ha olyan lapja van, mint a top pár vagy a rossz kicker. A pot még mindig nagyon kicsi, szóval nem kockáztatod a stackjét. És ezen okok miatt, ha checkelni mész, én a check-call felé hajlok, és alapvetően megpróbálok odajutni.

Fordulat
Teljesen tégla, és ha top párja van, nem hiszem, hogy eldobná egy újabb tétre. Másrészt viszont lehet, hogy visszapasszol, ha te passzolsz rá, mert te emeltél rá a flopnál. Szóval én időnként passzolnék, matematikai alapon döntenék, ha újra nyitna.

Folyó
Ez nem egy jó lap a számodra, mert valószínűleg nem emelsz második párral a flopnál. Tehát egy A valószínűleg újra megadja, és ha BTN nagyon nyáladzik, akkor akár T is lehet nála az esetek egy bizonyos százalékában, ami nyilvánvalóan nem dobás, most, hogy triplekké vált. Talán rá tudod venni, hogy konkrétan a K magas flushdraw-t dobja, de ez nem elég egy nyereséges blöffhöz, ezért játék közben feladnám, és hagynám, hogy megnyerje a potot.

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True, if it had been a strong AX, it would have raised from Bu, but in my opinion every AX should have raised from Bu.



Good to see, a regnar is definitely not going to limp out of any cards, and no fish will throw a top pair, even if I put bigger bets at 3, so it was really a mistake.



It was a mistake to increase the box office unnecessarily.



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It was an A6, I don't think I could have folded it.