$2.2 NLHE MTT Bounty: Call, 4bet or fold?

[1sunchin]

#2

PokerStars, $1.96 + $0.24 - Hold'em No Limit - 90/180 (27 ante) - 7 players

1numismat (UTG): 3,779 (21 bb)
Supernatural333 (MP): 29,940 (166 bb)
Baffik95 (MP+1): 8,652 (48 bb)
Nikokz13 (CO): 10,223 (57 bb)
lysistrata50 (BU): 3,495 (19 bb)
GarretWOGmas (SB): 3,601 (20 bb)
ololoxa (BB): 18,930 (105 bb)

Pre-Flop: (459) Hero (1numismat) is UTG with 5♥ 5♣
1numismat (UTG) raises to 540, 4 players fold, GarretWOGmas (SB) 3-bets to 1,989, 1 fold, 1numismat (UTG) - ?

 

[fundiver199]

Raise smaller than 3BB, when you are this short. Without bounties this would be a fairly easy fold. However even if he only has the starting bounty, its worth 1.250 chips, which mean, you are paying 3.212 chips to win a pot of around 9.000, so you only need around 33% equity. And unless he is incredibly nitty, you will be flipping here a decent amount of the time, which might be enough to make up for the times, you are a 4:1 dog. So on balance probably a jam but only due to his bounty. Calling makes no sense, because you will be pot committed anyway.

 

[300HPGOD]

Even 7 handed I would not open this UTG with a 20 BB stack. There will be too many times you will be in trouble post flop and likely out of position. Thats if villains only call pre and if they 3 bet pre then unless it is very small 3 bet, I think you would be lighting chips on fire over time to make the call. Bounties help justify playing this post flop but I dont think they push it enough to make it a hand you should play pre or post flop. The only way I can see this as a good move is if you are at a table where they are all very nitty and you know any call, much less a raise, and you are in trouble but their tightness will make them fold pre flop a lot and you can take the blinds and antes. Of course, if that is the case you dont need 55 to open and try to steal you could do it with any two cards. Add in too if there is a very small stack at the table that is in BB and you want to go after their bounty with 55. Otherwise, even though some may say its tight, at 20 BBs UTG I am pitching small pairs.

 

[marvinsytan]

im folding pre w 55, raising with 77+ but just a min raise and take it from there

folding my 55 to a rejam on that spot without a booty involved

 

[fundiver199]

I agree with those saying, that even opening this hand is fairly marginal, and if you had just open folded, that would not be a mistake. And facing the 3-bet the decision is so close, that folding would still not be a big mistake. But I do slightly prefer jamming because of his bounty, and also the fact, that dubbling up will allow you to contend for future bounties, whereas folding will not.

 

[1sunchin]

Even 7 handed I would not open this UTG with a 20 BB stack. There will be too many times you will be in trouble post flop and likely out of position. Thats if villains only call pre and if they 3 bet pre then unless it is very small 3 bet, I think you would be lighting chips on fire over time to make the call. Bounties help justify playing this post flop but I dont think they push it enough to make it a hand you should play pre or post flop. The only way I can see this as a good move is if you are at a table where they are all very nitty and you know any call, much less a raise, and you are in trouble but their tightness will make them fold pre flop a lot and you can take the blinds and antes. Of course, if that is the case you dont need 55 to open and try to steal you could do it with any two cards. Add in too if there is a very small stack at the table that is in BB and you want to go after their bounty with 55. Otherwise, even though some may say its tight, at 20 BBs UTG I am pitching small pairs.

im folding pre w 55, raising with 77+ but just a min raise and take it from there

folding my 55 to a rejam on that spot without a booty involved

I agree with those saying, that even opening this hand is fairly marginal, and if you had just open folded, that would not be a mistake. And facing the 3-bet the decision is so close, that folding would still not be a big mistake. But I do slightly prefer jamming because of his bounty, and also the fact, that dubbling up will allow you to contend for future bounties, whereas folding will not.

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[fundiver199]

If he is 3-betting as wide as KQo, then getting it in was definitely profitable for the reasons, I already stated.