$22 NL HE MTT: QQ

[Geo90]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

22

Currency

$

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 100/200 (25 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 18,201 (91 bb)
UTG+1: 25,185 (126 bb)
MP (Hero): 14,942 (75 bb)
MP+1: 11,407 (57 bb)
CO: 19,284 (96 bb)
BU: 13,505 (68 bb)
SB: 16,375 (82 bb)
BB: 16,101 (81 bb)

Pre-Flop: (500) Hero is MP with Q♣ Q♦
UTG raises to 400, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to 1,800, MP+1 calls 1,800, 4 players fold, UTG calls 1,400

Flop: (5,900) 3♠ 8♠ 9♣ (3 players)
UTG bets 1,000, Hero raises to 3,200, MP+1 raises to 9,582 (all-in), UTG folds, MP (Hero) folds


I'm playing pretty badly right now, which may be affecting my game. Maybe I'm playing too tight, always rushing, losing every flip.

Preflop: 3 bets is fine.


Flop: Should I 3-bet on this flop? Or is it enough to just call?I can throw it away overcards AQ AK KQ, but only a better card will raise here. I get an all-in after that, what could he have? He could have 1010 JJ, which I beat, he could play 88 99, 33 preflop, I think he would have folded.

In most situations like this, I always run into a set, which is why I folded. I don't think he would play like this with a straight draw or flush draw.

Based on the odds, I should have bet 25%, which I have, callif I lose, I'll be in a difficult position in the competition.

 

[rsparente]

I would have called, surely. It would be good if you knew the opponents range beforehand. What was his stats? VIP, PFR.

You blocked some of his combos, so I'd go with calling or 3 betting again. But it would all depend on the opponents view of you and yours upon then.

I know you won a big big tournament, don't dwell on trying to make it again, thus playing tightly. Evaluate the spots and try to make the best out of them.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
I like your 3-bet, but maybe you can size down a bit. 4,5X is good sizing out of position, but in position you could go maybe 3,5X and give yourself a better price on your bluffs.

Flop
You flop an overpair, and the stack to pot ratio is only a little over 2. So before we even start to look at the action, for me I would be happy to stack off here even against two opponents. Yeah you could be behind to sets of 8`s or 9`s, or someone might have slowplayed KK or AA preflop. But you beat TT-JJ, flushdraws and random overcards like AK, AQs etc.

UTG now donk lead, which is interesting, and he goes really small like a blocker bet sizing. I dont want to let people block bet me, when I have a strong hand, so I am totally on board with basically ignoring this and making a normal C-bet. I like your sizing, because it sets you up to jam the turn for less than a pot sized bet.

Now MP+1 jam, and as I said already, there is no way, I am folding. Yes he could have you beat, but he could also have TT-JJ or a flushdraw, and you are getting a price here, especially because he is the shortest stack. Its around 6k to win 26k, so you only need to win around 23% of the time, and I think, you win far more often than that. Even when you are behind to sets or KK+, you still win around 10% of the time.

 

[Geo90]

I would have called, surely. It would be good if you knew the opponents range beforehand. What was his stats? VIP, PFR.

You blocked some of his combos, so I'd go with calling or 3 betting again. But it would all depend on the opponents view of you and yours upon then.

I know you won a big big tournament, don't dwell on trying to make it again, thus playing tightly. Evaluate the spots and try to make the best out of them.

It was pretty tight, I don't remember there being much play, but I always forget to take a screenshot of the stats at times like this.


The problem is that I've been running into sets like this a lot lately, but it's not a good strategy. Last time I was in a similar situation, I threw AA when he had a set, but that was bad thinking.


Yes, I had a big win at the end of November, and since then something has happened. I've played 800 tournaments and had 1-2 outstanding results, and now I'm completely doubting my own game. I feel like I was just lucky last year. now I'm on a bad streak, I lose a lot of flips, I always have a disadvantage on the river from my preflop advantage, this definitely affects my game, in January I paid for the pairrod where I discovered a lot of mistakes in my game again, I do drills every day, squeeze 3bets, 4bets, but actually, what I've lost the most since then is my confidence. I thought it would be easier to play with such a big bankroll, but it's getting harder and harder.

 

[rsparente]

Well, yeah you could oversimplify your major win saying it was luck, but in the end it was a mix, of playing in a unknown territory + luck and forcing the opponents to play differently, you were the shark there* (You might not have played that high that much before the big win)

Now, well, we crave to think that we could win more easily after this. That's why, bankroll management is important, okay games where you don't see your money being at risk, but also, that's a little bit more playable than low stakes. Withdraw 80 to 90% of what you won, until you get back to tracks again.

When you play too tight, you are an open book, big raises = nuts hand, if preflop high end pocket pairs. Adjust, try to play more unexploitably. But, take your time, learn, read books, relax. You've made more than I did my whole lifetime in poker in one single game, if you'd like to keep playing as is, find the spot with more sharks and keep on tight. Avoid tournaments where you have a lot of gamblers, as by gambling they have range advantage against you being tight.

 

[rsparente]

I was right after you in today's table 888tv @Geo90

 

[Geo90]

Preflop
I like your 3-bet, but maybe you can size down a bit. 4,5X is good sizing out of position, but in position you could go maybe 3,5X and give yourself a better price on your bluffs.

Flop
You flop an overpair, and the stack to pot ratio is only a little over 2. So before we even start to look at the action, for me I would be happy to stack off here even against two opponents. Yeah you could be behind to sets of 8`s or 9`s, or someone might have slowplayed KK or AA preflop. But you beat TT-JJ, flushdraws and random overcards like AK, AQs etc.

UTG now donk lead, which is interesting, and he goes really small like a blocker bet sizing. I dont want to let people block bet me, when I have a strong hand, so I am totally on board with basically ignoring this and making a normal C-bet. I like your sizing, because it sets you up to jam the turn for less than a pot sized bet.

Now MP+1 jam, and as I said already, there is no way, I am folding. Yes he could have you beat, but he could also have TT-JJ or a flushdraw, and you are getting a price here, especially because he is the shortest stack. Its around 6k to win 26k, so you only need to win around 23% of the time, and I think, you win far more often than that. Even when you are behind to sets or KK+, you still win around 10% of the time.

AA KK would bet 4, but I don't have any stats on him, he might be playing slow, he might have 1010 JJ, or maybe J10s


BUT I should have bet so little that it was a mistake to fold, I need to rethink my game

 

[Geo90]

Well, yeah you could oversimplify your major win saying it was luck, but in the end it was a mix, of playing in a unknown territory + luck and forcing the opponents to play differently, you were the shark there* (You might not have played that high that much before the big win)

Now, well, we crave to think that we could win more easily after this. That's why, bankroll management is important, okay games where you don't see your money being at risk, but also, that's a little bit more playable than low stakes. Withdraw 80 to 90% of what you won, until you get back to tracks again.

When you play too tight, you are an open book, big raises = nuts hand, if preflop high end pocket pairs. Adjust, try to play more unexploitably. But, take your time, learn, read books, relax. You've made more than I did my whole lifetime in poker in one single game, if you'd like to keep playing as is, find the spot with more sharks and keep on tight. Avoid tournaments where you have a lot of gamblers, as by gambling they have range advantage against you being tight.

Actually, that's how I feel about the whole year now , I'm playing so badly, yes, then I played more satellites where I got tickets to bigger tournaments, but my game wasn't good enough against the regulars, which is why I'm going back to micro games.



I withdrew immediately because I don't trust myself, I have a demon inside me, I can easily blow my money.



First I paid for GTO, but I'm very far from that game theory, now I paid for Pairrd, it seems simpler, my English isn't great, but I watch the videos and do the drills, but now they just make me uncertain, I make a lot of mistakes




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[Geo90]

I didn't see you, I tried to double up before the bounty but didn't manage to do it quickly enough and got knocked out. How did you do?

 

[rsparente]

I tried the same and failed a little bit later than you. If you want to go pro-like and still have some money, go for Poker coaching material and trainings. Jonathan Little is very good, his team is even better. Go for world class training, if you have at least 1k to invest. Want to start smaller? Go for his books, first one: Mastering Small Stakes Tournament (or something like that).

 

[Geo90]

I'm not going to be a pro, but I want to have a good, solid foundation, I can comfortably play MTTs between $50 and $100, understand who is doing what from one street to the next, and when I play in bigger tournaments, I can see who the regulars are and try to avoid them. 😀raise your edge recommended another forum, so I started that, but I know him too.

I tried the same and failed a little bit later than you. If you want to go pro-like and still have some money, go for Poker coaching material and trainings. Jonathan Little is very good, his team is even better. Go for world class training, if you have at least 1k to invest. Want to start smaller? Go for his books, first one: Mastering Small Stakes Tournament (or something like that).

 

[eetenor]

Actually, that's how I feel about the whole year now , I'm playing so badly, yes, then I played more satellites where I got tickets to bigger tournaments, but my game wasn't good enough against the regulars, which is why I'm going back to micro games.



I withdrew immediately because I don't trust myself, I have a demon inside me, I can easily blow my money.



First I paid for GTO, but I'm very far from that game theory, now I paid for Pairrd, it seems simpler, my English isn't great, but I watch the videos and do the drills, but now they just make me uncertain, I make a lot of mistakes




Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

Making mistakes while learning is common--the issue is trying to apply what you are learning while not having learned it fully. Often learners will try to apply multiple new concepts and crash and lose confidence. You are not alone in that feeling. It is best to pick 1 area to adjust your game and only adjust beginning at the basic level
Example BB check raises- try to improve that, do not add in low equity bluff XR or 3 street neutral board bluffs . Just check raise the 100% check raise hands and slowly add in more complex aspects of BB play when you are feeling really solid about BB XR and having to play multi street continuations.

 

[Geo90]

Making mistakes while learning is common--the issue is trying to apply what you are learning while not having learned it fully. Often learners will try to apply multiple new concepts and crash and lose confidence. You are not alone in that feeling. It is best to pick 1 area to adjust your game and only adjust beginning at the basic level
Example BB check raises- try to improve that, do not add in low equity bluff XR or 3 street neutral board bluffs . Just check raise the 100% check raise hands and slowly add in more complex aspects of BB play when you are feeling really solid about BB XR and having to play multi street continuations.

Yes, I made that mistake. I feel that this course highlighted so many of my mistakes that I wanted to improve in every area, which led to chaos.

The other problem was that after a big win, I lost my judgment. I thought I was a good player, but that's not the case at all. My biggest goal was to play in the Main Event final table, which I managed to do.

At micro stakes, playing straight is more profitable than making 4bet bluffs with K5. I have some things to figure out for myself.



Thanks for the tip.