€4 NL HE STT: AKo

[miklcct]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

STT

Buy-in

4

Game Options

1. Turbo

Currency

€

5-player SnG
1st prize €12.67
2nd prize €6.33

Stack size:
Hero (SB) 17.6 BB
BB 16.73 BB
UTG 24.3 BB
CO 10.25 BB
BTN 24.88 BB

Pre-flop:
Hero Post SB 0.5 BB
Post BB 1 BB
Hero got dealt Ac Ks
UTG, CO, BTN folded
Hero raised to 2 BB
BB shoved to 16.73 BB
Call?

 

[puzzlefish]

5-player SnG
1st prize €12.67
2nd prize €6.33

Stack size:
Hero (SB) 17.6 BB
BB 16.73 BB
UTG 24.3 BB
CO 10.25 BB
BTN 24.88 BB

Pre-flop:
Hero Post SB 0.5 BB
Post BB 1 BB
Hero got dealt Ac Ks
UTG, CO, BTN folded
Hero raised to 2 BB
BB shoved to 16.73 BB
Call?

I would, given that BB is likely to jam light with worse Ax and other hands in this situation in response to SB who is likely to steal. BB range is way wider here. You still going to lose a lot of the time but you are probably ahead 60/40 or so, otherwise probably a coin flip.

 

[fundiver199]

I dont like min-raising from SB, because it prices in BB to call with any two cards. So all, you are doing, is massaging the pot a bit larger, when you are out of position. You can either limp or jam, if he put in a raise. Or you can go to like 3BB and of course call it off, if he jam. At the Nash equilibrium you are supposed to call this jam with any ace, and its not even close. If you have questions about AK, then you seriously need to study push-fold ranges. It also sounds like, you are surpriced, he jammed over your min-raise, but this is, what he is supposed to do a lot of the time.

 

[miklcct]

I dont like min-raising from SB, because it prices in BB to call with any two cards. So all, you are doing, is massaging the pot a bit larger, when you are out of position. You can either limp or jam, if he put in a raise. Or you can go to like 3BB and of course call it off, if he jam. At the Nash equilibrium you are supposed to call this jam with any ace, and its not even close. If you have questions about AK, then you seriously need to study push-fold ranges. It also sounds like, you are surpriced, he jammed over your min-raise, but this is, what he is supposed to do a lot of the time.

His jamming range has a lot of pocket pairs, and AKo loses to ANY pocket pairs. Even 22 is better than AKo.

He is also supposed to jam with any ace and a lot of kings, which both AKo blocks, and with Qx or less, he is less likely to jam.

I previously experienced with a larger bet size out of position and found out that it usually led to a loss, because either I just won a small pot or my stack went down fast if I didn't win the pot, and afterwards there wouldn't be enough stack to recover.

 

[Matt_Burns88]

I dont like min-raising from SB, because it prices in BB to call with any two cards. So all, you are doing, is massaging the pot a bit larger, when you are out of position. You can either limp or jam, if he put in a raise. Or you can go to like 3BB and of course call it off, if he jam. At the Nash equilibrium you are supposed to call this jam with any ace, and its not even close. If you have questions about AK, then you seriously need to study push-fold ranges. It also sounds like, you are surpriced, he jammed over your min-raise, but this is, what he is supposed to do a lot of the time.

I prefer putting AK in the raise/call bracket and I agree, 2.5-3bb blind vs blind is preferable to 2bb. We're just giving villain too good a price to call with almost any two cards when we min-raise.

His jamming range has a lot of pocket pairs, and AKo loses to ANY pocket pairs. Even 22 is better than AKo.

He is also supposed to jam with any ace and a lot of kings, which both AKo blocks, and with Qx or less, he is less likely to jam.

I previously experienced with a larger bet size out of position and found out that it usually led to a loss, because either I just won a small pot or my stack went down fast if I didn't win the pot, and afterwards there wouldn't be enough stack to recover.

What do you think villains range looks like here? You think he's jamming all pairs? I don't think so. What if he has AA or KK? Does that feel like getting the best value from those hands? More likely (at least he should) he's flatting those to allow you to catch up and balance along with all the crap that he's also supposed to flat.

Sure he has some pairs jamming, but actually, the vast majority of his jams come from Axo. AKo is so far ahead of this range, it's a slam dunk call. Even against his small pairs, you're flipping and given the pot odds, you're getting the right price to call.

 

[fundiver199]

His jamming range has a lot of pocket pairs, and AKo loses to ANY pocket pairs. Even 22 is better than AKo.

It also has a lot of other stuff like A3o, K5s, JTs and so on and so forth. If you actually fold AK, he can print money by jamming even 72o, because then you are folding like 95% of your range. Unless of course you only min-raise premium hands and limp everything else, which is also extremely poor poker. If AK run into a pair blind vs. blind, and you lose the "flip", then its just time to play another SnG. Thats all, there is to it.

 

[sibkaz]

First cheat, then get...)

 

[miklcct]

I prefer putting AK in the raise/call bracket and I agree, 2.5-3bb blind vs blind is preferable to 2bb. We're just giving villain too good a price to call with almost any two cards when we min-raise.

What do you think villains range looks like here? You think he's jamming all pairs? I don't think so. What if he has AA or KK? Does that feel like getting the best value from those hands? More likely (at least he should) he's flatting those to allow you to catch up and balance along with all the crap that he's also supposed to flat.

Sure he has some pairs jamming, but actually, the vast majority of his jams come from Axo. AKo is so far ahead of this range, it's a slam dunk call. Even against his small pairs, you're flipping and given the pot odds, you're getting the right price to call.

I am expecting a typical jamming range to be like
77+
A2s+
K9s+
QTs+
A9o+
KJo+