$8,8 NL HE MTT: JJ

[Geo90]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

8,8

Currency

$

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 300/600 (70 ante) - 7 players
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UTG: 7,460 (12 bb)
MP: 32,072 (53 bb)
MP+1: 13,677 (23 bb)
CO (Hero): 23,780 (40 bb)
BU: 21,322 (36 bb)
SB: 9,563 (16 bb)
BB: 42,080 (70 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,390) Hero is CO with J♥ J♠
3 players fold, Hero raises to 1,500, 2 players fold, BB calls 900

Flop: (3,790) 6♠ 3♦ K♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 1,250, BB raises to 3,700, Hero calls 2,450

Turn: (11,190) A♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 6,195, BB folds


JJ

Preflop raise is standard

Flop C-bet is also standard, but here, since he check-raise?

BB can defend wide; he could have a lot of Kx hands, or 66, 33, which beat us here

Hands we beat: A6, 76, 65, 64, 75, 65, 54

Folding here would be too tight? A pretty wide range beats us here


Turn A


He checked again. This is a good bluffing hand for us; we can get many Kx hands to fold here, sets will stay in, and I don’t think he has many AX hands

so we definitely have to bet here. What do you guys think? Or should we have folded on the flop?








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[podoloboq]

Also 1% sometimes saves after the river)

 

[Geo90]

Also 1% sometimes saves after the river)

What do you mean? What is that 1%?

There’s a 5% chance that J will come here, and since I had a range advantage, I thought bluffing would be a good option here; I don’t think I would have won by showing my hand.

 

[eetenor]

888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - 300/600 (70 ante) - 7 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 7,460 (12 bb)
MP: 32,072 (53 bb)
MP+1: 13,677 (23 bb)
CO (Hero): 23,780 (40 bb)
BU: 21,322 (36 bb)
SB: 9,563 (16 bb)
BB: 42,080 (70 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,390) Hero is CO with J♥ J♠
3 players fold, Hero raises to 1,500, 2 players fold, BB calls 900

Flop: (3,790) 6♠ 3♦ K♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 1,250, BB raises to 3,700, Hero calls 2,450

Turn: (11,190) A♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 6,195, BB folds


JJ

Preflop raise is standard

Flop C-bet is also standard, but here, since he check-raise?

BB can defend wide; he could have a lot of Kx hands, or 66, 33, which beat us here

Hands we beat: A6, 76, 65, 64, 75, 65, 54

Folding here would be too tight? A pretty wide range beats us here


Turn A


He checked again. This is a good bluffing hand for us; we can get many Kx hands to fold here, sets will stay in, and I don’t think he has many AX hands

so we definitely have to bet here. What do you guys think? Or should we have folded on the flop?








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Watching replayer 1 step at a time have not seen results
Preflop you open to 2.5bb why? What does it do to the BB range? That is our first thought when called how have I changed the BB range vs 2bb open.
take the time to build those ranges 2bb BB range 2.5bb BB range and compare them.

flop you bet small V check raises what range for this size? build the range value and bluffs. Should we continue vs that range is there enough hands we are ahead of vs hands we are behind to continue?

Vs many V on this board we can just fold now why not fold to this player? Are they making a let me see where I am at XR, with 1 pair worse than JJ?

We have to have a very good reason to call here vs this small size- would a V really bluff soo small-good players can.

Turn Ace -should we bluff does BB have AK here would they check raise AX no pair? So A6 most frequent AX hand in this spot vs weak players. Look at the ranges you built earlier is A4-5 2 7 going to XR you when you have many Kx hands?

Our V has way more combos of KX here than anything else --always know that this is a frequency read not an always thing.

JJ does not beat KX so we have to bluff to win do we bet now and shove river or do we check back and blast river when they thin value bet or check what works best to get this V to fold a K?
If we thought, we were never going to get them to fold a Kx hand the most frequent XR hand why did we call flop?

You bet and take it down perfect.

What you may want to think about going forward is how would I play this vs a better player- what is the range a better player XR small and then checks turn with vs the weaker players range .

Better players do this with sets more often than Kx so be careful to not over do this vs stronger players.

 

[eetenor]

Watching replayer 1 step at a time have not seen results
Preflop you open to 2.5bb why? What does it do to the BB range? That is our first thought when called how have I changed the BB range vs 2bb open.
take the time to build those ranges 2bb BB range 2.5bb BB range and compare them.

flop you bet small V check raises what range for this size? build the range value and bluffs. Should we continue vs that range is there enough hands we are ahead of vs hands we are behind to continue?

Vs many V on this board we can just fold now why not fold to this player? Are they making a let me see where I am at XR, with 1 pair worse than JJ?

We have to have a very good reason to call here vs this small size- would a V really bluff soo small-good players can.

Turn Ace -should we bluff does BB have AK here would they check raise AX no pair? So A6 most frequent AX hand in this spot vs weak players. Look at the ranges you built earlier is A4-5 2 7 going to XR you when you have many Kx hands?

Our V has way more combos of KX here than anything else --always know that this is a frequency read not an always thing.

JJ does not beat KX so we have to bluff to win do we bet now and shove river or do we check back and blast river when they thin value bet or check what works best to get this V to fold a K?
If we thought, we were never going to get them to fold a Kx hand the most frequent XR hand why did we call flop?

You bet and take it down perfect.

What you may want to think about going forward is how would I play this vs a better player- what is the range a better player XR small and then checks turn with vs the weaker players range .

Better players do this with sets more often than Kx so be careful to not over do this vs stronger players.

I decided to run this is in GTO WIZARD
On flop your bet 20% sizing is used -in a single sizing solve- solver range bets.
BB XR 5x your sizing with 60% of hands wow---no way standard V are finding even 50% of these bluffs.
Turn solver low frequency bets JJ with only Jspades 9% but does have all the AXs to bet. Solver has AQ and AJ off on turn

 

[Geo90]

A visszajátszás lépésenkénti nézése nem hozott eredményt.
Preflop 2,5 BB-vel nyitsz, miért? Mit tesz ez a BB tartománnyal? Ez az első gondolatunk, amikor megkérdezzük, hogyan változtattam a BB tartományt a 2 BB-vel szembeni nyitásnál.
Szánj időt arra, hogy felépítsd ezeket a 2 BB-s ütőtartományt, 2,5 BB-s ütőtartományt, és összehasonlítsd őket.

Flopnál kis V-vel nyitsz, checkelsz, emelsz milyen range-del jársz ekkora téttel? Építsd a range értékét és blöffölj. Folytassuk-e ezzel a range-del szemben? Van elég lapunk azoknál, amelyeknél előnyben vagyunk a hátránnyal szemben a folytatáshoz?

Sok V ellen ezen a boardon, most már csak dobhatunk, miért ne dobnánk erre a játékosra? Azt csinálják, hogy lássam, hol tartok XR-ben, 1 párral rosszabbul, mint JJ?

Nagyon jó okunk kell legyen arra, hogy itt megadjuk a tétet ekkora ellenfelek ellen - egy V tényleg blöffölne, annyira kicsik? A jó játékosok megtehetik.

Turn Ász - blöfföljünk, ha BB-nek AK-ja van, check-elne, emelne AX-szel, ha nincs párja? Tehát A6 a leggyakoribb AX kéz ebben a helyzetben a gyenge játékosok ellen. Nézd meg a korábban felépített lapskáládat, az A4-5 2 7 XR-ként fog szolgálni, ha sok Kx kezed van?

A V-nkben sokkal több KX kombináció van, mint bármi másban – mindig tudd, hogy ez egy frekvenciaolvasás, nem egy állandó dolog.

JJ nem verte meg KX-et, szóval blöffölnünk kell a győzelemhez. Most emeljünk és all-in tegyünk a riveren, vagy checkeljünk és üssük a rivert, amikor vékonyan emelnek értékkel, vagy checkeljünk, mi működik a legjobban, hogy V dobjon egy K-t?
Ha azt hittük, hogy soha nem fogjuk rávenni őket egy Kx kéz – a leggyakoribb XR kéz – eldobására, miért tartottuk a flopot?

Fogadsz, és tökéletesen le is veszed.

Amit érdemes lehet átgondolnod a továbbiakban, az az, hogy hogyan játszanék egy jobb játékos ellen - mi egy jobb játékos XR kis skálája, majd check-el a turn-nel a gyengébb játékos skálája ellen?

A jobb játékosok ezt szettekkel gyakrabban csinálják, mint Kx-szel, ezért ügyelj arra, hogy ne túlzásba ess az erősebb játékosokkal szemben.

:bizonytalan:

Thank you for your reply. I'll try to answer, but I'm not entirely sure.



2BB with open bet

Pot odds 1/4,5 = 22%

With 2.5BB open bet

pot odds 1.5/5.5 = 27%

0.36 * 5.5 - 2.5 = 1.98 - 1.5

Actually, I always open with that.

The lifting range of BB should be narrower; hands with a lower value will fall out.

But I should lift it tighter

“This is because a bigger raise offers less favorable odds, so you have to risk more money to get the pot.”

The free version only allows 2BB bets, so I can't make this comparison.


Flop: GTO c-bet with each hand on this flop,

What XR here? He could have many Kx hands — K6-KQ, 33, 66, 54, 63, 65. The GTO shows a much wider range, but I don't think Micron would raise it back with a Q4 or a 95 here.




Against such a card, I have a 28% stake.

The pot odds are 2450/11190 = 22%, so mathematically giving up makes sense, but I think we can still fall behind this flop several times, so the toss would be best.

There can be many Ax and Kx hands in this scale, which I can continue with according to the GTO.





But I wouldn't keep that many AXs; I don't understand why — I'd keep AK, A6 and A3.
I think a better player wouldn't throw with KX; after XR I'd give up a lot of Ax, even though the solver says I should.

Why did we stay at the flop? This is a good question — I should have thought this through earlier and considered what I was going to do next and which T would help my sheet. Actually, on the flop, I like the idea of throwing the most.

In fact, we should have been aiming for pot control; This weak made hand is in survival mode.


Thank you for your help.

 

[ratbat615]

This is what they mean by the advantage goes to the most aggressive player at the table. The check on 4th street was weak, so you took advantage, but you were definitely behind maybe Kx, KT, KQ, K9. all hands that call your raise pre. But I don't know about this player so that 3bet on the flop was scary and he could have a set, but I think he was the chip leader so maybe just a little bullying and you never back down that's why the check on 4th street. You placed it well no fear.