Facing a shove to my raise with 88 on the button

[LiviuRo123]

I had an interesting spot in a small MTT recently: I was on the button with 88, blinds 50/100, stack about 40bb. I opened to 2.2x and the small blind shoved for 25bb. I wasn't sure whether to call or fold. What would you do in this situation?

 

[primrose]

Fold. Might be a call in GTO world where people allin very wide from the blinds, but in reality it's a fold.

Also this should be in the hand review subforum, and you should include the stakes. I assume it's low stakes, but if it's not, then it might actually be a call.

 

[fundiver199]

Online this is a default call. There are hands in his range, that you dominate, like suited wheel aces and smaller pairs, and many hands where you flip with a slight equity edge. With more information you can consider folding, like if you have HUD-stats showing, that SB is very tight, or if its near the bubble.

 

[wushibala]

I usually fold 88 in this spot. From my experience, when the SB shoves 25bb it’s often a strong hand, and 88 doesn’t do well against that range. I’d rather wait for a safer spot instead of risking my stack here.

 

[Rldetheflop]

Im thinking fold. If our stacks a little bigger I might call but this early in the tournament I'm think we aren't doing great against villains range here

 

[yomarianob]

I think it's very villain dependent. If the opponent is very loose agro (capable of shoving A5o+, 22+), it's a call. If it's a tight player, better fold.

Also, it depends on the tournament format, is not the same 25bb in an hyper mtt than in a slow paced one.

 

[hobojim1247]

I would need more info than what is available in this question.

 

[hobojim1247]

I usually fold 88 in this spot. From my experience, when the SB shoves 25bb it’s often a strong hand, and 88 doesn’t do well against that range. I’d rather wait for a safer spot instead of risking my stack here.

I have found the opposite to be true. The SB shoves with weak aces and small pairs because they do not want to be forced to make any future decisions since they are OOP. There are only 6 hands you are behind. The rest you are ahead. So it comes down to my read on the particular player and what I have observed of his play.

 

[Natox]

Moin,
depends on how smart your opponent is. Perhaps you know him? Keep in mind, SB has to be not that strong. The BTN often clicks for stealing and SB can easily steal that back with 3bets or even pushes. Back to your question.. i would only call light 3bets IP and vs a shove= clear fold.