Big Blind Ante Tournament Strategy

[vwpokernut]

Used the search function and couldn't find a thread dedicated to this

inb4 someone lists about 15 threads and calls me a donk heh

anyway

I have 10/8 utg with 24k in my stack, final table, I am the effective stack, $50 to 4th, I suspect 1-3 are going to chop for 110 each

I shove. (whatchall think)

Other stacks are 120-300k

Big blind is 5k and big blind ante is 5k, sb is 2k

This isn't the best scenario because I either have 5bb or 2.5 bb but my question still stands

in general
with the big blind ante do I just add up both and divide to get my big blinds? or just the big blind?

When I am sitting at 15-30 big blinds this question tosses around my head and it is a major leak of mine

 

[micromachine]

Yeah I would consider the BB ante as a BB, so you only had 2.4 BB when you shoved.

But in this type of tourney you need to start being aggressive and shoving a lot sooner than in regular tourneys as you have to pay a BB every hand! Sounds like you waited too long and got blinded out.

 

[jadestem]

In tournaments it might be best to think of your stack in terms of M instead of in terms of bb. M = your stack divided by (small blind + big blind + the cost of antes for an entire orbit). With this formula you have a consistent way of judging the health of your stack regardless of the presence of antes and how the antes are being paid.

With a 24k stack and sb/bb/antes = 2k/5k/5k you have an M of 2. You should be looking for a hand to shove all in with when your M is about 6 or so.

 

[vwpokernut]

thanks all! read M thrown around a lot but never bothered to look it up; will def help me in my game going forward

 

[BatOneHat]

M shove

Used the search function and couldn't find a thread dedicated to this

inb4 someone lists about 15 threads and calls me a donk heh

anyway

I have 10/8 utg with 24k in my stack, final table, I am the effective stack, $50 to 4th, I suspect 1-3 are going to chop for 110 each

I shove. (whatchall think)

Other stacks are 120-300k

Big blind is 5k and big blind ante is 5k, sb is 2k

This isn't the best scenario because I either have 5bb or 2.5 bb but my question still stands

in general
with the big blind ante do I just add up both and divide to get my big blinds? or just the big blind?

When I am sitting at 15-30 big blinds this question tosses around my head and it is a major leak of mine

I typically look for a quality shove when M 10-6 and more desperate shove when M is less than 5.

 

[TeUnit]

Unless you are ACR(Americas cardroom does not use the antes in their big blind toggle feature), you need to include the antes in the BB calculation, just add 2/3 of the antes to the BB to calculate how many big blinds you have left.