Pay all in pre flop with AK same color or not?

[polote21]

most of the time I lose in this play

 

[AlbieTross]

Depends on the tournament, my stack, position, etc;
Lots of variables to consider when in this particular situation.

 

[zohnum]

Everything will depend on the position you are in, how much blinds you have and know the villain ..

 

[Haemophile]

me I am a nit and the only thing i will say is AK is NOT a shoving hand. it is not a made hand you still need to hit to make good.

 

[mariale_1990]

you have to consider many variables, the position on the table, your stack, how is the table, how is your game ... etc etc

 

[spottedflyer]

I actually love that hand and would go all in most of the time, and against agressive players totally would , but not always, it is still very easy to lose with it..

 

[Filip Krstevski]

All of the poker questions are really thought for answering. Everything depends on how many people raised before you, what is your position on the table and how big is your chip stack. Also depends on what opponent is shoving, whats your note and statistics for him. You need to follow everything and than make your decision, but calling suited AK pre-flop its not a bad idea. Most of the time i would 3-bet them and see how it goes, than i can make my decision for all-in. But i general your question was calling an all-in with suited AK, so I would say 55% (not general depends from tournament and chip stack) of the time i would call them.
Good luck sir.

 

[onemorechance]

me I am a nit and the only thing i will say is AK is NOT a shoving hand. it is not a made hand you still need to hit to make good.

It is quite literally a shoving hand

 

[NBB]

most of the time I lose in this play

It appears that you are an inexperienced player with no or little understanding of mathematical probabilities.
If you had ever read any article in a poker book that encourages a player to shove [ALL-IN PREFLOP] like what you have been doing, I would SERIOUSLY suggest that you burn it at your next bon-fire.
Using AK as a shoving hand is and can be useful in poker but there are specific situations to implement this strategy and preflop is rarely one of them.
My suggestion for you is to spend some time reading and studying a solid poker book and understand what and why before you do specific moves like this.

 

[klada152]

me I am a nit and the only thing i will say is AK is NOT a shoving hand. it is not a made hand you still need to hit to make good.

Really?? You must be joking.maybe it's not made hand but you are having bad odds only against AA KK.

 

[vse i sra3y]

It depends on your grid and position on the table.

 

[playinggameswithu]

AK is an overated hand. It usually folds out weaker aces and weaker kings and when it does it get taken over by a set. Remember you only have like a 15% edge over literally any permanent muck hand like 29 or 26

 

[MattRyder]

AKs is a 70/30 favorite over 72o or A2s and 50/50 against 22. Of course, I lose w/ AA all the time so in my case I'm almost always better seeing a flop with only one or two other players.

 

[karl coakley]

It is quite literally a shoving hand

I agree, AK is about the best shoving hand. That is really where its value is, it doesn't play as well as people think. Shoving with AA/KK lowers the amount you are going to win in the long run.

The problem I have with your post is while having to shove certainly has its place, it is done WAY to much.

I always see posts about a "shove chart" but I've never actually seen one. Having to put all my chips in pre-flop without AA or KK (don't need a chart with them) just isn't what I'm trying to do. Usually people that have a lower skill set like to shove a lot because they just don't have the knowledge or confidence to actually play pre/post flop.

If you want to learn to be a better player and more profitable work on putting all your chips in the middle less unless you see a river.



Call me crazy, but I like to see more than just two cards before all of my money goes into a pot! Daniel Negreanu

 

[ammje]

If I have less than 14bb I go all in, what I am looking for is to win chips, I do not care if I go out on the run.

 

[Spaceman]

Just for the information and not trying to be a *****, same color is called suited in poker.

My answer depends on how many big blinds you have to risk all your stack with AK suited. If you are on the low end, shove even if its offsuit. If you are good, my next question is what do you risk? Does your opponent covers you or you just risk losing a little portion of your stack? Next, from what position is your opponent shoving? Utg most of the time he wants you to call, closer to the button he may shoving just for the blinds with ace high.


I am no expert really on this, most of the times you should win flips in a tourney and AK is an excellent flipping hand. But I disagree that AK is a shoving hand everytime. Stealing the blinds with shoving AK is fine. But AK is a drawing hand. If you dont hit the flop you are losing to just a pair of two's as said. But with so many people shoving with Ace rag AK feels like premium.

 

[gabethegimp]

Depends.

The two major things I look out for in this situation are:
1 - How many players are in the pot and,
2 - What are their ranges like.

This will really dictate whether or not you're going to shove all call a covering play. I will only shove with an unmade hand like this if I know those players are loose or in position to make a loose play with rags. If you're up against a tight player, you're more than likely dominated with a high pair you'll have to out draw.

If the player holds anything greater than a 10/10 you're a major underdog and it's probably worth mucking.

However, if you're short-stacked, it's unlikely you'll make a hand this good again before being blinded, so shove and pray.

 

[Haemophile]

Really?? You must be joking.maybe it's not made hand but you are having bad odds only against AA KK.

QQ JJ TT 99 88 77 66 55 44 33 22 as well any pair is ahead of AK. maybe 52/48 but still ahead and with a maximum of 6 outs preflop because you don't know if a flush or straight draw will appear you have 6/50 chance of winning preflop. much safer to shove after the flop comes out even if you do not hit it

 

[Jovin_Ebejer]

Although you have to consider position and action in front of you, Im nearly always shoving AK especially suited under 30BB.

 

[valanddon]

Looks nice, but you know you could get sucked out.

 

[Eric Salvador]

If your blindly playing AKo your going to struggle with this hand. Also you must understand its value. Position is the first thing to evaluate. Are they trying to steal your positional advantage? Are there multiple people in the pot? What is your table image? Am I risking my tournament life? This is a hand that you don't get very often and just folding it can lead to losing equity but just calling it can put your tournament life at risk. You must view each hand differently then the last time you had it. Each had is unique treat it that way.

 

[AgentXtreme]

It depends on many factors , first of all it's a hand playable from any position , let's suppose on the bubble you have AKs and you're about to make it to ITM , two big stack taking action one of them went all-in , for me that's a clear fold , since we're on a sensitive period on the tournament and don't want to risk first payout with a hand that might be a classic race vs JJ QQ or even worse vs KK or AA .
Also you should give consideration to your opponent for example a very tight player went all-in and had almost same size of my stack , you can't risk your tournament here especially vs a very tight player , his range have to be JJ+ , it will be a flip and a domination in worst case .

 

[klada152]

QQ JJ TT 99 88 77 66 55 44 33 22 as well any pair is ahead of AK. maybe 52/48 but still ahead and with a maximum of 6 outs preflop because you don't know if a flush or straight draw will appear you have 6/50 chance of winning preflop. much safer to shove after the flop comes out even if you do not hit it

When I sad bad odds i didn't mean flips. You are in bad shape only against AA KK.I am not saying you should shove AK s every time.Of course you need to count in position stack size bubble etc. but to say ak suited is not shaving hand is just wrong.

 

[619Leafs]

most of the time I lose in this play

I would only do it against one opponent, any more than one you could be asking for trouble.

AK is more of a coin flip when all in pre flop as more than likely you will be up against a pocket pair.

 

[polote21]

I would only do it against one opponent, any more than one you could be asking for trouble.

AK is more of a coin flip when all in pre flop as more than likely you will be up against a pocket pair.

you are right experience is more important while you're playing better understand how to deal with different situations