Seven Card Stud - How would you play this?

[CRStals]

Since our CardsChat Learning Series wrapped up last week with our series on Seven Card Stud and Razz, we want to see you put your knowledge to the test! Here's the hand we broke down here --> https://www.cardschat.com/forum/lea...learning-series-advanced-548583/#post-7122675

The game is Seven Card Stud High / Low. You have so far gotten into this hand against two opponents and you have your heart set on scooping this pot. This is a tournament though and you are close to the money, in the range of 10 players away. Assuming these two players are not manaics, and the pot is now roughly 18 big blinds, what is your plan for proceeding with this hand? Are you going to scoop, or focus on getting a solid low hand? And are you willing to risk the rest of your 15BB stack at this point? If not, are you bailing? The two opponents have you covered, but you cover the rest of the players at your table.

 

[neverbluff0799]

Since our CardsChat Learning Series wrapped up last week with our series on Seven Card Stud and Razz, we want to see you put your knowledge to the test! Here's the hand we broke down here --> https://www.cardschat.com/forum/lea...learning-series-advanced-548583/#post-7122675

The game is Seven Card Stud High / Low. You have so far gotten into this hand against two opponents and you have your heart set on scooping this pot. This is a tournament though and you are close to the money, in the range of 10 players away. Assuming these two players are not manaics, and the pot is now roughly 18 big blinds, what is your plan for proceeding with this hand? Are you going to scoop, or focus on getting a solid low hand? And are you willing to risk the rest of your 15BB stack at this point? If not, are you bailing? The two opponents have you covered, but you cover the rest of the players at your table.

Ok im terrible at stud having playing it a few time only on CC but ill try

I think that with what my opponent have i would proceed with caution.....A25 of spade could aready have us almost drawing dead on the high and could also have us dominated for the low.....I would try to put the least chips possible in the middle and see free cards to improve to a full house or a solid low.If theyre too much action and since were close from the money my guts tell me to fold and wait for a better spot

 

[Sunz of Beaches]

Nice, question of the week is back!

I would probably be willing to scoop. 10 Players is still a lot of opponents to beat untill the money is reached. But waiting for a solid low hand would be definitely also an option with 15 Big blinds left. It's a very though decision in the End but I would take the risky route 👍

 

[najisami]

What a challenging question!

We're in a real tough spot here. Apparently, we have a chance against the player with the Kings, if our Aces lose to his high, we could at least chop if we hit another small card (One 4 is already gone too). But the other opponent is showing a scary hand. He could have us crushed high and low.

That said, if by any chance, we can cheaply see another card, or "hopefully", they both check, then we should go for it and re-evaluate. If we don't improve, especially on the low side, we probably better give up and grind to the money.

 

[okeedokalee]

Well we have 4 cards to a 7 low, 3 4s, 4 6s. 4 3s are available for us to improve.
Those cards could also make us a straight.
The KK is the worst hand, I would discount that, our Aces are disguised a positive.
I raise here to test the other two players, If they call only, and the next card is not a spade or a king and it helps my hand, I would go for it hoping we scoop.
We will be favourite against the kings and spades, but could be splitting the low.

Seven Card Stud High / Low, is a bitch game, one moment you are a rooster, the next a feather duster.

 

[mattiebumpo]

I will proceed cautiously...if there is aggression or they show improvement, I think I will fold because I don't think my high is high enough and my low may not be low enough. I might bail and hope for a better spot.

 

[enno]

Since I would not be betting first on any street, if either of the other two players showed aggression, I would probably fold. Otherwise I would be willing to take free cards to see who improves their hand.
However I’m not sure if I could apply my signature in this situation 🤔

 

[pentazepam]

I try to get to a showdown as cheaply as possible. And if the other two players start betting or even worse, raising, I'm willing to fold.

The player who shows two kings can have trips now, since if you're not a total maniac, you rarely play a king as a door card in Hi/Lo unless you have another already.

The player with all low spades probably has a good chance of a better low than we have, and a possible flush already.

If I don't get an ace, three, or four as the next card, I will probably fold. And I want that card as cheap as possible.

So I can probably fold to just an extra bet in this situation.

It is NOT a good hand to try to scoop with against these two opponents' cards. And you probably don't have many cards that can give you just the low OR the high part.

And the fact that we are close to the money in an MTT makes a check/fold the best alternative.

 

[SL-247]

If any of my opponents bet, I would fold.

 

[perrywh]

Both hands scare me! High and low so it’s a fold to any bet for me.

 

[mammadduke]

I wouldn’t scoop.. but I would definitely call if someone raised. I have an option of a high and a low hand. but chances of getting another ace is low for a high hand. but I would definitely stay in it for the low.. you have a chance of getting more low cards than chasing an ace. if it was seven card high low if it was regular seven card, I would still play cautiously.

 

[Rumengh]

The most sensible thing to do in this situation is to fold against this visible pair but I am a risky player and I have a good chance of a weak hand up to
eight so I will play the hand to the end and bluff him. A player who only plays to get into the money of the bubble is a weak player.

 

[antonis32123]

It would be very tough for me to fold . Maybe impossible. The other player has one Ace , maybe already a flush or even a low , but I only draw , I need sth to continue . I think the safe answer would be to fold , but probably I would just go on and lose . I have already invested blonds and my stack is not big . . I am not 100% sue , I don't know good stud hilow or plo hi lo . So the answer is it depends on the mood of the moment . If I got tired not getting anything at all until then I would go until the end of this hand . If I was calm , I would try to convince myself to fold . Until 5th street you can try for your draws , layer it's not worthy , it's expensive and risky to lose all stack .

 

[pirateglenn]

I would fold, considering the site of my effective stack, the pair on the board presents risks to me and any raise bet would 100% force me to muck. I have limited cards i could hit to make a winning hand, considering cards on show, our opponents have too great a chance to have better hands and they both have me covered, i would rather fold and live to fight a better hand with my remaining 15 BBs, i feel a better opportunity would present itself.

 

[TatyanaT]

ready to go all the way, I have a great hand

 

[Luvart]

That's a tough spot in an already tough poker game variant.

I think I'm willing to play for scooping the pot. Pocket Aces as hole cards are very good and there is also the chance to hit the last ace of the deck in one of the to remaining streets. Second player's King door card is quite suspicious, but I will take the risk and continue either by getting in the last street as cheaply as I possibly can.

On the other hand, if player 2 shows aggression on the last street or player 5 hits another flush card I will probably muck my hand.

 

[BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch]

You're usually more than likely behind on the low side and the high side.

If youre drawing to the low then you need a 3 or 4 or a 6. Yes a 8 will qualify for a low but youre drawing to a 875 low which is garbage and you will be sick calling off big bets with that,lol. It even worse if there is a lot of betting on the latter streets.

A 4 was folded and the spade draw person seems to be going low as well. But it depends on their skill level. you can read them by bet pattern if you watch them and know what they like to play.

so is it worth chasing? in a cash game, Im really 2nd guessing it, in a tourn Id pass on chasing the low there especially near the money and even more if there are folks below me in chips that will bust.

High hand, its just a pair and probably behind the kings with the 2 pair or trip kings and looking to improve while you havent improved to 2 pair yet. the spade person has your 2 pair outs and even if you get there you might be no good or drawing against a flush.

Easy bail and fight another day.

you could mess with this at the beginning of the tourn when the price to play is cheap and even bet it hard but not at that stage.

Use discipline and if the one with the kings believes you're both going low and stays to the river and shows only a pair of kings and the other one doesn't get a low because you had low cards and folds on the river, dont get mad or disappointed because it happens, especially with low buy ins or beginner level.

Thanks for posting the hand.

GL

 

[jaymfc]

Well, very happy to hear Chris did a class, lord knows most here need it, and everyone saying they would
Fold is funny because in our games, no one folds till the blinds get high lol. jk
I have to go with the rest, any aggression and I fold it like a cheap lawn chair. Two cards is not a five-card hand.

A hard 8 is not a great low online, in the old days, in a live game, 8 was almost always good.
In 7 stud h/l, it's easy to read the board and see the best high or low they could have, but being mostly holdem players,
many are just using aggression to try and win. I don't mind folding a draw if need be.

Now that everyone is a pro, let's get some more H/L going more often 😍

 

[Vallet]

If I have a chance to win the tournament, then I can't take any chances here. Pocket rockets are good. But player 2 is blocking my outs for a flush. Player 5 blocks my outs for full house. He has a chance to win both pots. I need to keep an eye on the spades cards and not inflate the pot too high. Because the main goal is to win high and low.

 

[thejuice1]

could go either way... but with the 2 others having me covered, and seeing a lot of potential outs gone, im folding and letting it play out and keeping the likelihood of making the money very high. the guy with a25 of spades has a better drawing hand than i do overall, and a lot of my outs are gone based on other hands. im going to let this one go here and live to fight another day with all i have left in my stack... the risk seemingly outweighs the reward here.

 

[Claudiunm]

Since our CardsChat Learning Series wrapped up last week with our series on Seven Card Stud and Razz, we want to see you put your knowledge to the test! Here's the hand we broke down here --> https://www.cardschat.com/forum/lea...learning-series-advanced-548583/#post-7122675

The game is Seven Card Stud High / Low. You have so far gotten into this hand against two opponents and you have your heart set on scooping this pot. This is a tournament though and you are close to the money, in the range of 10 players away. Assuming these two players are not manaics, and the pot is now roughly 18 big blinds, what is your plan for proceeding with this hand? Are you going to scoop, or focus on getting a solid low hand? And are you willing to risk the rest of your 15BB stack at this point? If not, are you bailing? The two opponents have you covered, but you cover the rest of the players at your table.

Given what you've explained, I would fold. After spending hours in a tournament and being just a few positions away from the ITM, I prefer to wait for the money to start rolling in before getting involved and taking a risk.

 

[Dejana]

Well, very happy to hear Chris did a class, lord knows most here need it, and everyone saying they would
Fold is funny because in our games, no one folds till the blinds get high lol. jk
I have to go with the rest, any aggression and I fold it like a cheap lawn chair. Two cards is not a five-card hand.

A hard 8 is not a great low online, in the old days, in a live game, 8 was almost always good.
In 7 stud h/l, it's easy to read the board and see the best high or low they could have, but being mostly holdem players,
many are just using aggression to try and win. I don't mind folding a draw if need be.

Now that everyone is a pro, let's get some more H/L going more often 😍

I thought that you would tag me and ask how I would play this, just because I won in Stud-Omaha H/L championship, but ok...😀😂

 

[jaymfc]

I thought that you would tag me and ask how I would play this, just because I won in Stud-Omaha H/L championship, but ok...😀😂

We thought you would be the first to volunteer a nice answer, and got nothing, but ok

 

[Dmitriy_rus7]

If this was a freeroll I would play these hands. If this was a cash game I would probably fold. Many factors influence whether or not to play this hand.

 

[RENEY444]

We need so much more info before answering the question .As others have said is it a freeroll or real money ? And 10 players to go is a long way ln CC on replay where only 5 get a real prize .Also how has the betting gone so far ? How did the ace up, and you, act after the 4 bring in ? 18 bigs in the pot is some help but Im not sharp enough to calculate it all . Lets just say in a large field for some decent money Id probably fold to any pressure with plenty of short stacks in danger (15 BB left is a lot near the bubble !). However in most of the other situations Im just gonna bet and raise every chance since its rare to have a hand that good after 5 cards !