NEED TIPS ON 0.25 - 0.50$ 6 Max ACR

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Hi, I'm looking for tips on 6 max NL 0.25 - 0.50 6 max.

If anyone has a good technique or knows how to play a solid game on there please help. I want to know your secrets. How do you deal with a 3bet when you raise 3x from UTG with AQ or AJ or AK? Is this a fold situation?

Is it worth calling a 8x BB raise with any pocket pair? In hopes of making a set? Or is this a bad decision?

These games are wickedly hard.....One mistake and you can kiss your whole stack good bye........Just found this out plenty of times.......

What is your advice on length of play? 2 hour sessions? Longer?

Advice on getting re-raised with Top Pair on the flop?

Thank a lot.

ONLY 0.25 - 0.50 advice.
 
How in the world is anyone able to beat this game????????

0.25- 0.50 NL 6 max.

Everyone is tighter then anything I have ever seen!

Bovada 0.25 - 0.50 is 10x softer then this ACR room

Also, I do not use a HUD. I am useless on here???????? I am just getting wrecked. I see no point anymore in even attempting to play on these stakes it is just so stupid lol. Fold , fold, fold , fold, fold wait for premium hands?
 
Actually... If they are as tight as you say, you should be playing more hands. Then again, Im sure a pro like yourself knows that already!
 
Not sure why you think I'm a professional. I had a good run on live. Made a lot of money quick. Maybe I got lucky. I do not know. All I know is these stakes are just difficult......

Is by me not having HUD making my play useless???? I feel like a fish in these games. A lot of these guys are multi table players too. I figure they are the pros....
 
Just consider all your options and go with one that you like. For the under the gun raise, You can fold, 4-bet or call. 4-bet if you want to take control of the hand and, flat if you want to try and outplay him on the flop. I personally would 4-bet Aq+ good percentage of time, Flat AJ+ good percentage of time and Fold AJ small percentage of time depending on opponent and what position he raised from. Flatting 8x with a pair is usually a bad idea unless you have jj+. If your going to continue playing NL6max a HUD could be usefull, I would focus on your poker game first before you get into a HUD.
 
Aaron Soto said:
Not sure why you think I'm a professional. I had a good run on live. Made a lot of money quick. Maybe I got lucky. I do not know. All I know is these stakes are just difficult......

Is by me not having HUD making my play useless???? I feel like a fish in these games. A lot of these guys are multi table players too. I figure they are the pros....
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Lol I warned you that online is way more difficult than live. And you even thought about jumping straight into 100NL. 50NL and 100NL+, especially 100NL+, are where the sharks live.
 
Gump877 said:
Just consider all your options and go with one that you like. For the under the gun raise, You can fold, 4-bet or call. 4-bet if you want to take control of the hand and, flat if you want to try and outplay him on the flop. I personally would 4-bet Aq+ good percentage of time, Flat AJ+ good percentage of time and Fold AJ small percentage of time depending on opponent and what position he raised from. Flatting 8x with a pair is usually a bad idea unless you have jj+. If your going to continue playing NL6max a HUD could be usefull, I would focus on your poker game first before you get into a HUD.
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Decent advice some people over think
 
Aaron Soto said:
Hi, I'm looking for tips on 6 max NL 0.25 - 0.50 6 max.

If anyone has a good technique or knows how to play a solid game on there please help. I want to know your secrets. How do you deal with a 3bet when you raise 3x from UTG with AQ or AJ or AK? Is this a fold situation?

Is it worth calling a 8x BB raise with any pocket pair? In hopes of making a set? Or is this a bad decision?

These games are wickedly hard.....One mistake and you can kiss your whole stack good bye........Just found this out plenty of times.......

What is your advice on length of play? 2 hour sessions? Longer?

Advice on getting re-raised with Top Pair on the flop?

Thank a lot.

ONLY 0.25 - 0.50 advice.
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Sounds like you should be playing at 5nl (50nl players are gonna be mad at me).

Hey was this you posting about a poker vid. (TV poker) on YouTube (Greg Raymer re-raised allin with 5-5)
 

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Aaron Soto said:
Not sure why you think I'm a professional. I had a good run on live. Made a lot of money quick. Maybe I got lucky.
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It's beautifully entertaining to watch someone discover their own ignorance.
 
Aaron Soto said:
Hi, I'm looking for tips on 6 max NL 0.25 - 0.50 6 max.

If anyone has a good technique or knows how to play a solid game on there please help. I want to know your secrets. How do you deal with a 3bet when you raise 3x from UTG with AQ or AJ or AK? Is this a fold situation?

Is it worth calling a 8x BB raise with any pocket pair? In hopes of making a set? Or is this a bad decision?

These games are wickedly hard.....One mistake and you can kiss your whole stack good bye........Just found this out plenty of times.......

What is your advice on length of play? 2 hour sessions? Longer?

Advice on getting re-raised with Top Pair on the flop?

Thank a lot.

ONLY 0.25 - 0.50 advice.
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It will be better to post certain hands for analysis then a generalization of what to do when you get 3-bet with AJ.

As far as HUDs.

This one was free. I don't know if it still is or not.

http://www.holdemmanager.com/hm-cloud/
 
I'm gonna throw you a bone here because whatever.

You have a small to middle PP, and villain raises to 8x. Thats all well and good as THIS RAISE DOES NOT MATTER!

What matters is how big the villains stack is if you want to set mine.

You need to be getting 10-1 roughly preflop on a call vs villains stack.

EXAMPLE: Villain bets $10. villain stack needs to have $100 in it, to set mine successfully!

Asking about AQ/AJ/AK hands to a 3bet etc and whatnot, depends on table and situation. However AJ is almost never a call and AQ is very rarely a call out of position.

Gl.
 
Luke, there's more than just getting the right pot odds to setmine. Calling to purely setmine is usually a losing play. Villains often don't stackoff light the higher up you go, which makes pure setmining even less profitable. You have to win without making a hand sometimes, like bluff-raising or barreling on certain board textures.

We don't get paid off a lot when we hit our set, competent villains are going to get away from TPTK/overpairs, our set does not always hold up, we may get set over set, so if we are purely set mining, we need lots of implied odds and great pot odds to call. It's best done multiway, preferably 4+. 3 way is okay if you are in the BB and the raiser/caller are both somewhat deep.
 
I'm not sure if Luke is being serious or not but set mining is closer to 20-1 implied odds not 10-1
 
Poker Orifice said:
Sounds like you should be playing at 5nl (50nl players are gonna be mad at me).

Hey was this you posting about a poker vid. (TV poker) on YouTube (Greg Raymer re-raised allin with 5-5)
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yeah. what the hell.
 
IPlay said:
I'm not sure if Luke is being serious or not but set mining is closer to 20-1 implied odds not 10-1
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Wait really? My bad! I'm purely basing my analysis off of what I heard on Jason somervilles stream! He said you need 10-1 to set mine effectively vs opponents stack.

Would that be just for the flop then? Or does the 10-1 not make sense from any angle?
 
10-1 is fine against weak players with really strong ranges who will basically always stack off when you hit the set. But as your opponent becomes more skillful and his range widens you'll need increasingly better odds to purely set mine, if it's even profitable at all.
 
Mr Sandbag said:
10-1 is fine against weak players with really strong ranges who will basically always stack off when you hit the set. But as your opponent becomes more skillful and his range widens you'll need increasingly better odds to purely set mine, if it's even profitable at all.
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Oh I get you. Yeah I read up on it a bit more after it was pointed out I was incorrect. Thanks guys! Atleast I learnt something from this thread.

Trying to figure out the range for set mining is hard though, i mean its obviously dependant on your opponent right? A super loose guy you could probably go with 55+ but super tight you really want to limit to like tt+?
 
lukeellul92 said:
Oh I get you. Yeah I read up on it a bit more after it was pointed out I was incorrect. Thanks guys! Atleast I learnt something from this thread.

Trying to figure out the range for set mining is hard though, i mean its obviously dependant on your opponent right? A super loose guy you could probably go with 55+ but super tight you really want to limit to like tt+?
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Exact opposite actually. If someone is super wide, they aren't going to have a strong enough range most of the time to pay you off with. You really shouldn't be set-mining against LAGs to play fit-or-fold post.

If they're super tight, you can set-mine with any PP. Well, if they're bad enough to stack off with overpairs post. But those players don't exist in great numbers the higher you go up.
 
Yes you are at a significant disadvantage not using a HUD as you appear to be starting to realise. These days you have to know the player type you are up against to know how to respond correctly.
Looks like you're going to have to bite the bullet and get a tracking software.
Table selection is also a big key if you are going to make any significant money. You have to actively scan for fish and try to get on their tables. Stack size is the biggest initial indicator. I just wouldn't bother sitting on either a 25 or 50nl table where all the players have full stacks you are unlikely to have any significant edge against regs at those tables.
Last night I had a sweat session on pokerstars 25nl tables with an American player who normally plays 100nl on Bovada. We both agree Bovada is far softer even at 100nl. On the 25nl tables on Stars there are supernova players about.
After an hour of playing well and flopping great I still just couldn't get paid so I went over to 888 Pacific and about 30% of the players at 20nl were fish as opposed to about 1 in 30 at Stars. Obviously I don't know ACR but I'd suggest Bovada in the short term where the HUD doesn't rack up such detail.
 
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lukeellul92 said:
Oh I get you. Yeah I read up on it a bit more after it was pointed out I was incorrect. Thanks guys! Atleast I learnt something from this thread.

Trying to figure out the range for set mining is hard though, i mean its obviously dependant on your opponent right? A super loose guy you could probably go with 55+ but super tight you really want to limit to like tt+?
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This is quite helpful
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hzhEUQYGqpc
 
I'm rewatching Nanonoko's 25NL Zoom series on Pokerstars, and I don't see the whole hype with Pokerstar players being super skilled. Sure, they're probably better than Bovada. By how much I don't know. But they still have tons of leaks and spew like crazy. They're actually pretty bad...

Bovada 100NL cash games are somewhat soft, but the regs are pretty good. The aggression level is high, even from recreational players and fish. Zone players are actually pretty solid and put you in tough spots constantly, and I see a decent amount of deep-stacked regs. Especially past midnight. Quit last time at 4 A.M. because 1/3-1/2 of every new table were all deep-stacked regs who were probably grinding for a decent amount of the day like I had. Didn't feel like I really had a big edge over them, and I didn't really want to be constantly playing 200-600bb deep against these regs.
 
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The basic point is both site and table selection is important if you are grinding for a living. I haven't seen the NanoN vids I'll have a look thanks.
I agree most 25nl regs have some leaks. I see a full range of non regular exploitable stats at that level but generally we're talking about players who make small mistakes and don't spew off whole stacks like fish do. It takes a while to scrimp and steal a BI off these players. When I switched to 888 a fish stacked off pre with AQ and I won in a single hand what it took me 600 hands on Stars
 
I love how the OP isn't learning a damned thing from this thread yet myself and a few others are taking away information to improve our game. Brilliant.
 
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