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[QUOTE="John A, post: 2148464, member: 88730"]
A good sample size will help, if their checkraise%'s are high, then you know they are adding more air, gutshots, etc... into their range. That of course will take a while to normalize. But through observing and taking notes you can get an idea of what someone is adding to their range. If you see someone c/c with sets on not overly coordinated boards, but some connectedness, then they are likely doing this on dry boards, so if they do CR you can narrow their range a bit more. Basic example, but you can start getting a sense of how someone is playing most of their ranges if you pay attention - I know, that's a bad word.

They probably aren't LAP's then, they are more like rocks and you're not categorizing them correctly. True loose passives mean they are loose and will be playing too many hands pre-flop which = having dominated hands a lot, and then playing them passive post flop. Either you aren't reading them correctly, or you're playing too lose yourself if you are being out kicked.
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