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Message: [QUOTE="John A, post: 2216704, member: 88730"] You're welcome. You have a solid game. I'll share in here one thing we talked about, that I tend to see at around your stakes a lot. Hope you don't mind me sharing. Very common typical thing that happens. Turn play. Players get to the turn with marginal hands, and then aren't sure what they should be doing, and more importantly why they should. I'll give a specific example from a hand we looked at. This is from memory so it may not be perfect, but it illustrates the point pretty well regardless. I think there was about 80+ bb efffective stacks. X player limps, Hero has AdAh on the button and raises, and gets the hand heads up versus X limper. Flop comes: Ts Th 8s X limper checks, Hero bets, X limper calls. Turn: Qs X limper checks, hero checks. I see this kind of hand/play a lot. The question you need to be asking yourself on the turn though is the following: 1) If I check this turn, am I planning on turning my hand into a bluff catcher? 1a) If I am checking to turn it into a bluff catcher, is my opponent capable of bluffing? 2) If my opponent isn't capable of bluffing, can he over value worse hands if he bets the river? If the answer is yes, then you should not be turning your hand into a bluff catcher, you should be betting the turn. 3) Can I bet my hand for value? Are there worse hands that can call?[B] If your opponent is incapable of bluffing when you're in narrow EV spots on the turn, then you should bet for value on the turn because there's no difference between betting the turn, or calling the river except you lose value from the drawing range of your opponents hand. [/B] 4) If your opponent (who in a similar case like this, is likely passive), calls a turn bet by you, and then bets the river a reasonable size, or shoves, then you can easily fold. But the primary question in spots like this is: If I check this turn, am I planning on turning my hand into a bluff catcher? Know why you are checking or betting. Not only what cards you want to see, or don't want to see, but have a firm grasp of why you're making the decision that you're making. In this case, we should have been betting the turn because we do have narrow +EV, and we don't have any info that says our opponent will bluff at a reasonable frequency to give away our narrow equity on the turn. [/QUOTE]

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