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[QUOTE="John A, post: 2321677, member: 88730"]
Ya, so the turn call is fine. You have odds like you said, but here's the key... at these stakes, once you get min raised on the turn (especially if it's a turn check min raise), you're looking at the nuts or close to it 99.385% of the time. Unless they are proving to be a random button clicker, this is generally the case.

So when you get to the river, what would the nuts or close to it be on the turn? I mean I didn't even look at the results at first, but I would have bet he has KT. You're going to have a slight possibility of QJ on this kind of board, but generally you're going to see KT or a badly played set. So what would be the highest EV line considering you don't have enough info on villain? Bet/fold the river. QJ is only calling at that point if you bet, and you'd have to make a disciplined fold because you won't have worse 9x's, and only boats and straights would shove at that point. CRAI would only be good against weak players, over agro players, etc...

I don't think this is a really bad example of being a non-believer. You have a good hand with some reasonable second best hands. It's more a question of how to win the most / lose the least in this kind of spot on the river.
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