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Message: [QUOTE="Fisi, post: 2387580, member: 105158"] Yeah he's solid but also quite passive for such a tight player at AF% 36. I really have trouble seeing any value in 4 betting here, because the only hand I might get real value from is JJ here. And even that might be unlikely. If he 5 bets it sucks, because I'm way behind his range, if he folds it sucks, because I was way ahead of his hand. I think he plays pretty straight forward postflop, so playing this hand oop doesn't seem bad to me. Yeah a 20-40% bet seems best. I often have a problem when I am thinking about the hand in the moment, because I get ideas like: I can probably make him fold KK here! And than dissregard the whole situation and just do it. Anyways, i bet about 70% of pot, he took some time and than called with KK. [/QUOTE]