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[QUOTE="Figaroo2, post: 3663523, member: 103914"] The point is pretty clear, most of these hands should just be folded pre flop with maybe some of the higher suited combos 3bet rather than cold called. It's also interesting that off suit hands don't do as badly as you might think in comparison in two of the samples. I do find this odd as playing suited cards should bring extra flush draws which can be semi bluffed and get there so they should lose less if you're playing your draws even half decently. I recently got slapped down by Lex Veldhuis in his twitch stream when I criticised him for defending T6os in the blinds against a min raise from MP . He hit top pair, ran into AT and busted. His argument was with more people opening lighter he had to defend wider and reverse float because the weaker opening ranges can't barrel as much. I get this but if they are opening lighter you are probably better 3betting more than calling these sort of hands. Yesterday he got through to day 2 of a Scoop and was bullish about his chances. First hand of the day he defended the bb with K8os to a CO raise hit top pair and busted first hand to AK. I know this was top of the guys range but there are still plenty of other dominating king combos as well of course. I don't know it just seems silly to play T6os and defend too wide no matter how fking good you are. One thing I'd like John to clarify is what he thinks is an acceptable BB/100 hand rate is for these sort of hands and when they should be played if at all. [/QUOTE]
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