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[QUOTE="John A, post: 4015099, member: 88730"]
If there's something you're confused about in my first response, then you're welcome to ask specific questions. I outlined 3 general lines and why to take them against specific opponents.

And no, I don't agree with c/c and c/f. I attempted to explain why that is in my first post.

His 17% overall open and UTG facts don't really factor in much because his 3-bet calling range isn't really going to differ. We can "maybe" say (and I wouldn't in this specific case because we need more hands), that someone's specific hands in their calling range will include X subset of hands. Example, someone with 25% open and a reasonable 3-bet calling range CAN have more suited connectors than someone that is tighter. Again, nothing is absolute when you're talking about calling and opening ranges. You're making logical deductions based on available data that can have variance.

So any ways, we can add AJs and put in more KQs type hands. But it won't matter too much. A rough calling range would be something more like:

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Board: 4c Tc Ad Xx Xx

Equity            Win               Tie               Hand Range

60.1153%          58.9833%          1.132%            [ KdKs ]

39.8847%          38.7527%          1.132%            [ 88+(100), AQs+(100), AKo(100), JTs(100), T9s(100) ]

We can probably add 77 and even AJs, but it will float around this equity. At my stakes, it would be much higher and closer to 65%.

Combinations do matter of course. It's better to look at combos than overall equity for hopefully obvious reasons. You want to justify the line you're taking based on the number of combos that have low and high equity against your hand.

You're not WB though. We can just say, Hero is betting when he has the equity edge. If you, or any poker player wants to say, no, Hero is only facing a range of JJ+/AQ, etc... that's your prerogative. I'm just here in this thread to be a sounding board and offer advice based on what I've encountered in my playing career. My experience tells me that range will have you making a lot of bad folds. And like I said, it's one thing to fold when there's a narrow equity difference. And it's an entire other to do it when the equity gap is large.

But the bottom line is, however you choose to approach a WA/WB situation, make sure you have a plan and you're considering flop texture, and the type of opponent you're against. Don't just have a default line of saying I should always X in Y spot. That's not how to maximize value in poker.
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