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Message: [QUOTE="John A, post: 4895497, member: 88730"] Why not bet flop? As played, on the turn he's going to have a lot of air and some draws. Calling is fine since he's tight, and same w/ the river. I'd put him on a lot of Ax, AJ, flush draws, air. Probably not many straight draws especially after the river. As far as solvers go, yeah, I debate about the whole thing in terms of how much effort I should take explaining them because there's some major problems. But I see this all the time in the online poker community. One pro says X is what you need to do, and everyone does X, without really thinking about it. :) Really I could give everyone real time GTO strategy in about three sentences. Check your top pair hands sometimes. Bet your bottom pair hands sometimes. Don't ever always do X against people you have history at. I just don't ever hear pro players saying, "I think he checks his weak top pair hands here 60% of the time." It just doesn't happen, and really we don't even need to know that. I think in respect to if analyzing GTO strategy can make you a more thoughtful poker player, then it's good. But I also suspect it's some kind of magic safety blanket for bad and mediocre poker players to have a static solution spoon fed to them. If they have some "solved" answer, then they'll feel better about their play. For a VERY LONG time in online poker, people would just auto bet top pair hands. If you've watched any of my early poker training videos, I was an outlier (at the time on places like 2+2) because I said, "no... don't do that." You need to be sometimes checking your top pair hands, and usually top pair weak kickers are ideal hands for that. You wouldn't believe the push back I got from "top online pros" at the time about that strategy. Now, 10+ years, it's commonly accepted. I can go over and do a simple training vid though with something like PIO solver free. I still don't own one myself, so I can do turn/river solutions if someone is interested. Actually I do have one that was given to me by a developer, simple post fop. I'll see what the response is first before I commit. [/QUOTE]

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