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Message: [QUOTE="Aballinamion, post: 5462135, member: 289533"] [b]Chapter 7: 3-betting[/b] Hi there professor John Anhalt. I'm devouring your book and now I intend to kindly open a discussion about 3-betting. You said in the first paragraph of this chapter: "[I]The games today are becoming increasingly aggressive. (...) Players are applying more pressure pre-flop and becoming increasingly aggressive postflop[/I]" - [B]Polished Poker Vol 1, pag. 115[/B] This is very important because we gotta learn to deal with aggression, and most important, learn how to steal pots preflop, because those pots are rake free, and we make huge ammounts of winrate when we use a proper strategy for 3-betting as the book describes: We have 3-betting value range, which will include QQ+ AK, so we must have a 3-betting bluff range to balance and make the decision making for our opponents harder: "[I]A baseline for a value 3-bet range is 4.22% of hands, which looks something like this:[/I] [I]JJ+ AQs+ AQo+. Now clearly if you only 3-bet about 4% of your hands, you're not going to get much action when you 3-bet, and you're going to be leaving money on the table. you'll want to add in some more hands as bluffs, and also find ways to add more value hands against certain opponents[/I]". [B]Polished Poker Vol 1, pag: 117[/B] In the page 118 we see our possible 3-bet ranges: [B] For Value[/B]: JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ [B] Bluffing:[/B] A2s-A8s, A2o-A8o, K2s-K9s, K5o-K9o, Q5s-Q9s, J5s-J7s, Q8o-Q9o, J7o-J8o [B] Calling Range:[/B] KJo+, KTs+, ATs-AJs, ATo-AJo, QTs+ QJo, JTs, 22-TT "[I]So if you add some of these bluffing hands to your 3-bet value range, you'll increase your 3-bet range to a percentage that will properly polarize your total 3-bet range. This means thati f you get your total 3-bet percentage to around 8%, your opponent won't know when you're 3-betting for value, or when you're 3-bet bluffing. They'll have to risk calling and playing a re-raised pot without initiative against you, folding their hand and giving up their equity, or 4-betting you."[/I] [B](idem, pag: 118-119)[/B] [B]Quasi Range[/B] I am not sure if I undertand this Quasi range well, so I'll try to explain with my own words. For example I could be calling AJs from the BB versus a BTN or SB opener very safe, because I know that AJs in spots like this is more a value hand than a bluffing hand. But I would elect to 3bet AJs from the BB versus SB or BTN's raisors when I see them don't love to fold to 3-bet very much, so I increase the size of the pot preflop, take initiative and plus I can win a bigger pot postflop against a weaker player because of the 3-bet. However, if we are in the MP with AJs and a very nitty player who opens barely 5% from UTG at a 6-Max Cash Table, opens and we elect to 3bet with AJs it might a 3bet for bluff because players like these will have us dominated most of times with AQ and AK. I say that after I read this chapter I change my 3-bet ranges a lot. I don't know if I am reading this chapter correctly, but I would risk to say that we must mix our 3bets and calls, so we can use the same range that we use for 3-betting against certains types of players we also could be calling. [B]Middle Position 3-betting/Calling Range versus UTG's Raisor[/B] In this position, I use to 3-bet around 4% of value and 4% of bluff, mixing between calling and 3-betting depending on notes, stats, history, players style, perceived range at the moment the action happened, and I also love to use your algorithm and make a lot of questions to myself before taking any kind of action because either I have "A's or 87s". I will thank you forever for this great work you did writing Polished Poker! So my personal MP vs UTG 3-betting/Calling range will be something like this (after I had read chapter 7): TT+, ATs+, A5s-A2s, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, AQo+ (8.60%) How do I mix my calling, folding and 3-betting range here? Is it correct? Am I being to nitty? [B]AA, KK and AKs [/B]= 3bet almost 100% of combos. At the micro-stakes I don't love being fancy with these hands. I could be calling here when I see a very wild aggressive player ahead (CO, BTN or Blinds) that is very likely to be Squeezing if I cold call versus UTG. Thus, is a great business. Sometimes I can call AA, KK and AKs when both UTG raisor and players/player in the blind/blinds are weak, so I can induce a lot of errors postflop. [B]AQs[/B] =3betting 3 combos and calling 1 combo [B]AJs[/B]=ATs 3betting 2 combos and folding 2 combos (it is very hard to call here versus UTG when we will be mostly dominated) [B]A5s-A2s [/B]= 3-betting 2 combos and folding 2 combos, terrible for calling too IMO. These smaller suited aces are also in my 4-betting bluff range, but this is another subject. [B]AQo[/B] = 3-betting 6 combos and folding 6 combos (off suited only) [B]AKo[/B] = 3-betting 6 combos and calling 6 combos [B]KTs-KQs[/B] = 3-betting 2 combo, folding 2 combos (I find very hard to play this hands versus UTG in 3-bet pots) [B]QTs-QJs[/B] = 3-betting 1 combo, folding 3 combos [B]T9s and JTs[/B] = 3-betting 1 combo, folding 3 combos [B]TT[/B] = 3betting 1 combo, calling 5 combos, I will find some spot where I can fold TT versus UTG but it is rare. [B]JJ [/B]= 3-betting 2 combos, calling 4 combos [B]QQ[/B] = 3-betting 3 combos, calling 3 combos As long as I move up the positions I will add some more value hands and some more bluffs, until when we get into the BTN 3-betting/calling range versus CO raisor, we will see that it is pretty standart to 3-bet almost all combos of T9s, and sometimes it is for value! lol. Regards; Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa [/QUOTE]

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