British man appeals £1.5M gambling loss vs. Betfair

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Property tycoon, Lee Gibson of Leeds, England had attempted to sue Betfair for £1.5 million he lost gambling on the platform in September, 2021. He lost. Now Gibson has taken his case to the appeals court arguing the Betfair should have seen that he had a gambling problem and should have intervened.

Do you think Mr. Gibson has a case worth fighting?

A rather interesting case can be found in the link below from Casino.org. 👇

British Tycoon Appeals £1.5M Gambling Loss Case Against Betfair


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People like this guy mentioned should learn some self responsibility. He deposited and lost that money so he should just live with it imo.
 
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The Independent refers to him as multimillionaire so he can probably afford to lose some.
But I would be more concerned with what happens if he actually wins his case. That would probably set a precedent and gambling sites would become much more cautious, and maybe cut off some customers just in case, in fear of a future lawsuit.
 
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If he had won $1.5 million, should Betfair have sued him? You played, you lost :you take responsibility for it!
But for some people, it’s like an illness... or who knows? Maybe he wanted to lose so he could win much more with the lawsuit!
 
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I mean really..... if the sites block suspected problem gamblers they complain,

and if they let people play they complain too???, you can't have it both ways,

I'm not wasting tears on a multi millionaire, sorry not sorry
 
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I believe Mr. Gibson should blame only himself, not his friends, family, parents, wife, children or Betfair.
 
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Sunz of Beaches said:
People like this guy mentioned should learn some self responsibility. He deposited and lost that money so he should just live with it imo.
and on top of that he doesn't even need the money as a millionaire....
He must be bored out of his mind to go through this lawsuit anymore further
 
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and on top of that he doesn't even need the money as a millionaire....
He must be bored out of his mind to go through this lawsuit anymore further
Could be also a case of being too proud to loose. Who knows how narcissist such a billionaire is and he probably just couldn't stand the fact that he lost against the casino.
 
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I don't really think that casinos try to protect problem gamblers, I think they target problem gamblers.
 
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Shells said:
Property tycoon, Lee Gibson of Leeds, England had attempted to sue Betfair for £1.5 million he lost gambling on the platform in September, 2021. He lost. Now Gibson has taken his case to the appeals court arguing the Betfair should have seen that he had a gambling problem and should have intervened.

Do you think Mr. Gibson has a case worth fighting?

A rather interesting case can be found in the link below from Casino.org. 👇

British Tycoon Appeals £1.5M Gambling Loss Case Against Betfair


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He doesnt have a case worth fighting. Instead he is the one who should be sued for gambling instead of helping the needy with that huge amounts of that money. He is greedy!
 
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Honestly, I think this is one of those Catch-22 cases. He’s probably not going to win, but it might just get the ball rolling on setting a precedent that’s been a long time coming.

Yeah, sure, he’s responsible for his choices — but addiction doesn’t work like a light switch you just turn off. These platforms know the signs better than anyone. They track everything, and if they can spot trends to boost profits, they can sure as hell spot when someone’s going off the rails.

So while he might lose in court, it could push the conversation in the right direction — where accountability isn’t just on the player, but shared with the platforms making money off the damage.
 
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I invite you to watch a video clip to get an idea of what can be done in a casino that is not licensed! You may want to think about RNG.

 
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Stupid case . I won't even lose tome reading the article . It's the players responsibility to know if they have gambling problem and stop playing . It's not the casinos'. Fault . So you can't use or persecute a business for this thing . Or maybe the state's responsibility to protect citizens from gambling too much money or at a very early age , and this is too much maybe anyway.
 
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TeUnit said:
I don't really think that casinos try to protect problem gamblers, I think they target problem gamblers.
Agree
 
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Do you think Mr. Gibson has a case worth fighting?

I really don't think he does.
The 1st thing (Among others) the site lawyers will highlight and emphasize on would be the resources clearly indicated under "Responsible Gambling" section that every gambling site has available to read on their platforms. Let alone the fact that nobody twisted his arm or took any money from him in any illegal way.
 
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Why do rich people always want to blame someone else for their problems? Us working people just accept our failings and move on.
 
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Why do rich people always want to blame someone else for their problems? Us working people just accept our failings and move on.
They have the time and the money to do it, and it works to get them more money by doing it! Lobby groups are a shining example! Look how far they can go.
 
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They have the time and the money to do it

Yeah, one thing is sure, rich people have a lot more time than the working class. And time (Plus the money ofc) is actually so valuable that it could be used to achieve and achieve, and achieve, thus staying always ahead.
After all, time is money ;).
 
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It does sound senseless to me, just like for anyone else (apart from the so-called tycoon). I would more interested in knowing the outcome of the case.
 
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Let alone the fact that nobody twisted his arm or took any money from him in any illegal way.
What is not known is what inducements were given to keep him gambling, if the casino knew he had a gambling problem, which is more likely than not, and they continued to give inducements, then the casino should have a case to answer.

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What is not known is what inducements were given to keep him gambling, if the casino knew he had a gambling problem, which is more likely than not, and they continued to give inducements, then the casino should have a case to answer.

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Incentives? Loss itself is the strongest incentive, because it drives you to keep playing in hopes of recovering what you’ve lost. It’s a psychological mechanism that casinos heavily rely on...
 
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If Mr. Gibson was a low income individual living from paycheck to paycheck, or was gambling with his welfare cheques, I might say he had a chance of winning. This man is a wealthy property tycoon, which means he can't be that stupid. I believe the court will find that he was cognizant of the possible repercussions and should be responsible for his losses.
 
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What is not known is what inducements were given to keep him gambling, if the casino knew he had a gambling problem, which is more likely than not, and they continued to give inducements, then the casino should have a case to answer.

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I don't know man, but if it was casinos' responsibility to stop giving action to losing players, then they would've all gone out of business a long time ago.
 
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Incentives? Loss itself is the strongest incentive, because it drives you to keep playing in hopes of recovering what you’ve lost. It’s a psychological mechanism that casinos heavily rely on...
Addiction is a recognised mental condition. Do you think it is right for casino's to take advantage of a patron's mental illness.

Casino's ban advantage players, but they are very happy to exploit people with mental illnesses. That doesn't sound like responsible gambling to me.

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I don't know man, but if it was casinos' responsibility to stop giving action to losing players, then they would've all gone out of business a long time ago.
Losing players and addicted players are two different things.

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Losing players and addicted players are two different things.

Yes that's true. But to a software, they are both losing money and I don't think it's programmed to distinguish between the two.
Overall, it's the player's responsibility to manage their BR. And if they fail to do so, they only have themselves to blame.
 
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