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Message: [QUOTE="apokerplayer, post: 1971142, member: 89201"] Hey, guys, it's me, Zach, who wrote this. I just wanted to jump in because it seems like some of you were getting off on a tangent talking about looking back at cards, and the length of time taken to bet or check. Those are entirely different tells from what I'm talking about in this post, and I just wanted to make sure that nobody was confusing all of these. Just to be clear, in this post I'm talking only about that first initial look at the hole cards (assuming they are looking at the cards at the same time obviously), not about anything else. There are definitely other tells involving looking back at cards, and bet-timing tells, and I've written about such things. But I think it will help you if you categorize all of these things separately in your mind. [/QUOTE]