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Message: [QUOTE="AceHighSteve, post: 1590152, member: 73531"] Hi I'm a tournament player from a community near Seattle Wa. I have a question, can anyone think of more "outs" you can have than: "TWENTY FIVE", and I can think of 36 ways, out of the roughly 2.8million hands you can get in Texas holdem to end up with 25 outs. Can anyone think of anymore? Here are the 36 ways of ending up with 25 outs on the river: [B][I][COLOR=black]You Hold: [U]Ks,Kd[/U][/COLOR][/I][/B] [I][COLOR=black]challenger holding 8a9a(a=any suit w/no spade)[/COLOR][/I] [I]Flop: [B][U]10s,Js,Qs[/U][/B][/I] Turn Card: [B][I][U]Kc[/U][/I][/B] [B][U][COLOR=black][I]Outs on the river, you have[/I][/COLOR][/U][/B] [I][COLOR=black]1 - K = Quads[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black]3 - Q = FH[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black]3 - J = FH[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black]3 - 10 = FH[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black]9 - spades = Flush[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black]3 - A = Str8 (or str8 flush)[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black]3 - 9 = Str8 (or str8 flush)[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=black][B][U]25 - Total Outs[/U][/B][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=black][I](These outs of course could be repeated with any pairs, K’s,Q’s,J’s,10’s,9’s,8’s,7’s,6’s and 5’s, with any suit, for a total of 36 hands.)[/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][I]If anyone can think of a hand with more……well, I can’t![/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][I]Oh, and the odds you will hit the river…. [/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][I]The Straight is a slight favor...45.45% to 43.18%, [/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][I]But depending on the size of the pot, this hand would be almost impossible to fold with the implied odds… (if you knew the other player had the low end straight!), the problem is, after the Turn card you HAVE to figure that the challenger could have the Ace of spades (or Any other Ace) which changes your percentage of winning the hand to just 25%, and the number of “outs” to 10, (if he holds the As), so calling a large bet or raise in that position would be VERY difficult! [/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][I]Although, if the challenger does not have the Ace of spades, and has the low end straight, your card will come 69% of the time in a ten handed game to win the hand. I hope you got all that…Good Luck! [/I][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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