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Message: [QUOTE="AUPhoenix, post: 893809, member: 34478"] I have been is several small money and freeroll events where these "all-iners" will go all in until they are taken out. If you see this start happening you have to be very patient until either you or someone else takes the donk out. The trick to it to me is simply realizing that any two cards can win but any two cards can also get you taken out. Early on in any tourney you have to be able to lay down anything less than A-A. Realizing that even if you have A-A and there are several callers in front of you. The odds are good someone will hit the flop hard and your out. On the opposite side of the coin with quality starting hands overall you will be the big winner. Keep your chin up. P.S. I also hate playing with those type guys. Phil Helmuth says he can dodge bullets. Maybe we should all remember that from time to time. [/QUOTE]