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Message: [QUOTE="foldyourgold, post: 667765, member: 29422"] I envite you to try a little experiment that may just open your eyes to reality. If it doesnt, either there is no hope for you, or you just like whining about your poor poker playing! This is what you need: 1 standard deck of playing cards 1 note pad 1 pencil roughly an hour of your time This is what you do: Deal out face up a ten seated table. Do this 50 times Mark down what every hand is won with Mark down suck out wins Mark down kicker wins Mark down how many times AA's KK's QQ's JJ's are cracked Do this online now Mark down folded wins online Yes, I realize its not the same thing. You can't see every time online what the winning hand is because of folds when playing online. Just keep track of that as well. You will begin to realize how many hands two pair and one pair are dealt out each and every hand, and how many folded winners there are. How many times have you said to yourself or seen someone else say, "ahhh, I shouldnt have folded!! I folded a flush!" and so on and so on... Here is an example of my numbers: [U][B][SIZE=5]ONLINE[/SIZE][/B][/U] [SIZE=3][U]Winning hands[/U] A's: 1 K's: 2 Q's: 2 J's: 1[/SIZE] [U][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/U] [SIZE=3]Split pot: 3 out of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Folded out winning hands: 20 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]1 PR: 6 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]2PR: 13 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]3 of kind: 7 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Straight: 2 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Flush: 1 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Full: 2 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Won with high kicker: 6 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Hands won when starting hand was weaker than opponents(sucking out)[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Turn: 3 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]River: 5 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][U]Losing Hands[/U] A's: 1 K's: 1 Q's: 2 J's: 2[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]1 pr: 8[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]2 pr: 4[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]3 0f kind: 1[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Straight: 1[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Flush: 1[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Full: 1 [/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [U][B][SIZE=5]REAL DEAL[/SIZE][/B][/U] [U][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/U] [SIZE=3][U]Winning hands[/U] A's: 2 K's: 1 Q's: 2 J's: 1[/SIZE] [U][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/U] [SIZE=3]Split Pot: 6 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]1pr: 3 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]2pr: 10 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]3 of kind: 7 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Straight: 4 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Flush: 10 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Full: 8 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]4 of Kind: 1 of 50[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Higher kicker: 3[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Suck outs:[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Turn: 11[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]River: 6[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][U]Losing Hands[/U] A's: 1 K's: 1 Q's: 1 J's: 3[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3]1pr: 82[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]2pr: 80[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]3 of a kind: 4[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]straight: 5[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Flush: 4[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Full: 3[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] Okay, this is a lot of info to take in. I did this ten times, these numbers reflect the average between 10 different sessions. That's a total of 500 online and 500 real deal hands. I think this is more than a fair representation. If you examine these numbers you can learn something from them (at least I would hope) If you look at the losing hands under REAL DEAL you can see how amazingly many losing hands are dealt out each deal!! In 50 deals over on average 183 losing hands are dealt!!!!! 80 2 pairs were loser! 4 3 of a kinds! 5 straights!! 4 flushes!!! 2 Fulls!!!! On average over 50 hands dealt 1 pock aces gets cracked! 1 pock K's! 1 pock Q's!! 3 pock J's!! Now dont go thinking this means that these numbers happens every 50 deals...its an average. 500 deals on average these numbers happen every 50 deals. I hope this shines a little light on the whole "rigged" business. :rolleyes: Shaun "The Mon" [/QUOTE]

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