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Message: [QUOTE="pat3392, post: 1534652, member: 64730"] For foolish reasons sometimes I get in debates over hands when I play poker; they are pointless because all that they achieve is each person saying, "I'm right you're wrong" Well they're not that pointless because I learn a bit about their thinking style. Basically we argue and not once has someone said, "hey maybe you're right" To help explain myself I'll give some examples: A player decides to limp mid position with about 30 BB with A4o, it was folded around to him; I said to him it was bad because he'll win a lot of small pots and loose a lot oif big ones; Don't know how the conservation drifted to this but for some reason we started discussing a pro poker players move; it was a $3500 tournament(I think anyway, maybe bigger), top 28 get paid and 33 participants left, presumably a MTT pay out structure since it was a MTT. A player min raised UTG and the pro in discussion was criticized for going all-in with KK( I get the feeling they were around 10-20 M by the discussion) The reasoning was is that one must play cautiously when so close to the bubble, and these were his exact words, "what if he has AA, or QQ and hits a set or a ace and hits that? It's not worth the risk" He believes that a call is best, then go all-in on any flop that hasn't got a A, fold every flop that has a A. My argument that one must take these small risks even when close to the bubble; he, like me, just thought that the other person's ideas are ludicrous. These kind of discussions happen all too often and it makes me wonder if I'm being as bad as they are; most, if not all, are very ego orientated when discussing such things; hell this guy who was discussing this went on saying how that he was right because he had entered a $4000 tournament before and wouldn't shut up till I said that the call was better. I'm also getting the opinion of literally every player(well one exception) that I play with are plain terrible, irrational monkeys. They just make so many bad plays and the worst thing about it is they think they are good and playing the hands well(some guy who watched me play criticized my folds of ace rag when in mid position when no one has raised because after all, it's a A. My comment of, "the problem with those hands is that I'll win lots of small pots and loose lots of large ones" went completely over his head, which made him repeat how bad that was to fold. I'm just finding it ironic because I'm thinking that these players are dip shits yet in a way doing exactly what they are. Opinions people? [/QUOTE]

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