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[QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 1425174, member: 23910"]
Erm... you're missing my point.  I'm saying the math in LHE is pretty much always basic, but the same isn't true for NLHE and there's not much that LHE can teach us about those spots.
 
Take a typical situation at HU $200NL:
 
Hero ($200, button): Ac Qc
Villain ($200): X X
 
Hero posts $1, Villain posts $2, Hero raises to $6, Villain raises to $16, Hero calls
 
Flop: Kc 7c 8s (pot: $32)
Villain bets $27, Hero... ?
 
How exactly does LHE teach us anything about the math of this situation?  In LHE it's a $2 bet into a $12 pot and the call is a no-brainer.  If someone is at risk of "going with their gut" and ignoring pot odds in NL, how exactly will playing LHE teach them to do otherwise?  If anything, it'll teach them that you may as well go with your gut because you've pretty much always got the odds.
 
If people like LHE and that's what they want to play, great.  I believe it's a deceptively hard game and you've absolutely got to work on it to get good at it.  I even envy good LHE players* - they've got a skill that I don't have.
 
I just don't accept that the skills you need to develop to be a good LHE player (over and above the basic ones like patience and discipline, which you can learn playing [I]any[/I] poker game) will make much of a difference when that player moves across to NLHE.  They will, on the other hand, have to learn more difficult pot odds calculations, learn about implied odds, pay more attention to position and work a hell of a lot harder on hand and player reading.
 
Which is why I say you may as well just start in the game you mean to continue playing long-term.
 
[SIZE=1]* because at least they only caught LHE.  I caught Razz.[/SIZE]
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