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Message: [QUOTE="F Paulsson, post: 1428140, member: 6979"] There are plenty of reasons why playing LHE when you start out is better than starting directly with NLHE, even if you do plan to play no-limit eventually. Whether or not they're sufficient to make up lost time is debatable, but if you know you're in it for the long haul, learning the basics - i.e. pot odds, something that the majority of no-limit players seem to have difficulties with ("how often do you need to have the best hand to call a halfpot river bet?") - is not a bad idea. You'll pick up some bad habits that will take awhile to shake once/if you make the switch, but I came through alright in the end. Of course, there are other ways of learning these things than by spending a year playing a game you're not interested in. Yeah, there are a lot of pros who advocate starting out with LHE. Obviously, these are pros who DID start with limit hold'em. Whether or not that makes them right is debatable. It's all debatable. Personally, I'd lean towards "play the game you like to play." Going through the motions of LHE as some sort of stepping-stone school while longingly eyeing the wonderful world of NLHE is no way to spend your free time. One final thing: Swings are only steeper and more difficult to handle in NLHE if you count strictly big blinds. To say that a LHE player "only" loses a few big bets when he hits a bad hand is missing an important point: Most LHE players play with bankrolls of less than 1,000 big bets (or 2,000 big blinds, if you prefer), and the majority of small stakes LHE players probably with more like 300-500 big bets. If you look at how badly a downswing will butcher your bankroll, LHE can quite possibly be said to be worse and that's because the edge of a great player is not that huge. Downswing sizes are affected mainly by your win-rate, and the lower the win-rate, the bigger the swings. And even an expert LHE player is not going to achieve the kinds of win-rates that an expert NLHE player will. [/QUOTE]

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