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Message: [QUOTE="Logan2, post: 1602995, member: 46244"] I kind of in the middle in this, agree to some point to Kirk, but also agree to hamm. My first think when read this was "what a 10+ tabling player do then?", let´s face it, we don´t have so many reads when multitabling, maybe we have some notes there and software help us to give a rough idea, but we still use our skill to play (most of us anyway). I think the no notes on players is bad, but the no tracking software at least for me not see it like a most for win, i still can win with out a HUD and there is where i don´t agree with hamm, even with out trackers good players are not only playing your cards, you also play position, hand ranges, preflop play, postflop play, other players positions, stacks, reads, wich is really important aside of trackers. Your cards are important but is not the only thing. This days we have a talk in SNG topic about what if you play a game with out see your cards wich probably help a lot to take in consideration everything else also not only your cards. That no HUD could make the games harder?, yea, i think could be if you are playing 4+ tables, but still think will not be a "oh ok now the fish will win", skill players still will win, but will be harder. This tables will mean no tracking sites too (sharksc, proshar, etc) meaning you will not have anymore a idea before play, example i don´t use tracking sites when im playing because is illegal, but it is legal to used when are not playing, meaning i usually take note on players that end in top3 or players that take me out to later see if they are winning players or not (For sngs), and try to use table selection this way for future games. In this tables you can´t use table selection in any way, can´t use a Hud, can´t use notes, so pretty much will be use you skill there and focus to get info on players as soon as can, wich will be harder, but still bad players will not have a edge on you, they don´t care about position or hand ranges, or stacks, or trouble spots, so you should still be ahead. What bring my attention to this article is that is not only 1 site, Cake network have the NO HUds policy since time back (you can use tracking software but only get you own stats and other players appear like cake seat1, cake seat2, etc), and this is for all the site and all cake network, not only for some tables (doyles and rest of skins too), now Party Poker implement this for some tables and next day find it also for 32Red, so this are 3 sites using this now, wich make me wonder if all sites could implement this for future. Good or bad?, i don´t know, have his good points and bad points, i know that some high stakes winning players not even use HUD, so for some will not make any change, but for example will be better to Phill Ivey appear like anonimous?, for bussines reason probably is not good for the site that pros be anonimous,the point to have it is for people see them and want to play with them, but surely some times they will want to be anonimous and enter in this tables. [/QUOTE]

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