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Message: [QUOTE="RamdeeBen, post: 2400788, member: 71146"] Also, why would saving up your own money and investing in 5K mean you would then study hard and be able to grind, I think it would end in disaster. I've ran numerous <$10 deposits over several $$$$ many times. I find grinding literally from the bottom up good motivation because the money won/lost is meaningless and there's a sense of achievement when you climb the stakes. Basically imo if you're unmotivated to run up from a small roll you won't have it in you to do anything at higher stakes. Grinding from the micro stakes there's no reason if you put in decent volume you couldn't be playing low stakes if you're a good player after even a month. It's pretty easy for example turning $10 into $1k putting in some good volume at 10c/25c MTT SnG's and moving up. I very recently did that myself 2 months back after I withdrew all my money, I started actually with $20, was down to $3 when on a heater and 4 weeks later had $1500 just through some good volume. If you never have to withdraw any money, there's no reason you couldn't have $5k easily after 6 months of grinding and be at where you are, at least then you can feel you beat the stakes you was playing and can play decent low stake games. Last year was my turning point, beginning of January 2013 I had only $100 or so to my name and was probably break-even at best for 1-2 years but I worked hard on my game, by the end of 2013 I'd ran it up to around $20-25k from just micro games over various sites with mainly most of my volume at pokerstars. Obviously though because I've had to withdraw monies in between time I've never moved up past $30 games but it's very doable with some work. If you're willing to save up money just for a year to save $5k then why not just start with a very small deposit and even with little volume you could still reach that $5k within a year playing a few hours a week so you don't feel you're grinding day in day out, there's no reason to if you hate it that much. Of course running up a roll is assuming you're a winning player. [/QUOTE]

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