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Message: [QUOTE="x2486, post: 1661676, member: 72408"] Yes, there's... ummm... chip tricks! Are you really good at chip tricks? Because that's how I think poker players should be ranked is by how well they do chip tricks. I'm not very good at them myself, so I really admire a player who can shuffle and twirl their chips like a pro! Of course, that's not really fair to the online players, because even if they can do chip tricks, no one can see them. So maybe players should be ranked by how much they contribute to the game. $800 is a pretty good contribution for an amateur I guess. I bet if you play higher stakes you could contibute even more. Though I hear they respect your raises up there, so that might not work for really good players like you who just happen to be losing a lot of money at the lower stakes. [/QUOTE]