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Message: [QUOTE="Leatherass, post: 1362985, member: 63650"] 1. I would think of it as like an education. You need to start in pre school, then elementary, middle school, high school, college, masters and PHD. You have to be patient with it and "graduate" yourself. I talk about this concept in depth in my book. 2. I don't really have any great options other than to write Full Tilt and tell them that you feel their is a flaw in their business model if they are actually going to chase away an active customer because they weren't lucky enough to know rakeback existed before they created an account. Tell them that there is no way you will play there, but you will give them a ton of business if you are simply allowed rakeback. I had a buddy who did this and it worked for him. They didn't give it to him right away, but he was persistent and asked to speak to a superviser etc. and eventually they referred him to a rakeback company and he was able to get rakeback. [/QUOTE]