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Message: [QUOTE="beardyian, post: 744141, member: 2225"] Welcome to Cardschat Yes its frustrating when up against non-folding fish, but unfortunatley there are lots of them around. The key here is play tight and have patience, there will be days when they pay you off time and again and you will wish to play them every day. :) Make the bets large enough for them to be unable to call or slow play them (play them at their own game, hit river flushes, straights etc). Patience is the key - oh, and a bit of luck :D [/QUOTE]