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Message: [QUOTE="zachvac, post: 826494, member: 26306"] Bad logic, I never claimed anyone winning was a pro, but I did claim all pros were winners. Those are two completely different statements (sort of like how all of Houston is in Texas but not all of Texas is in Houston). To be a professional poker player, you must win money at poker, whether it's through the games or through endorsements and sponsorships (and not many people are willing to sponsor a losing player or use a losing player to sell their stuff). If they're playing in L.A. and they are losing, they are not pros. Baseball is probably what I spent the most time on apart from sleep last Spring. Does that mean I was a pro baseball player? No, because I wasn't making any money. Money's the key thing here. But if you want to get into semantics, the OP is asking about turning and staying a pro poker player and continuing to make enough money to comfortably support himself (correct me if I'm wrong OP). [/QUOTE]