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Message: [QUOTE="light65536, post: 823431, member: 23958"] Yes but my point this is over ALL GAMES tracked. This is the NET LOSS on the games that were tracked. Sure they could be making tons of money on side games. I don't know if this is a definitive record but it's an INDICATION of something. I'll even tell you the player names: Gank from ProPokerSchool on all games tracked by TopShark has a NET $30,000 loss over the last 1-2 years in what it track PokerProf007 -- this is the name used in a poker DVD series -- out of 20 games he played under this name he had 1 win. $208 in losses. And this guy has a DVD series on HOW TO WIN at tournaments? Lol. Then I thought I'd look up Ferguson and Beyamine. They also are net losers on games tracked. They lost a 25k buy in. Ferguson record is pretty bad on games that were TRACKED. FOR whats its worth [/QUOTE]