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Message: [QUOTE="Spaceman, post: 4550325, member: 312893"] Lets say you have air or a small pair. You know your opponent doesnt have something good and he doesnt like neither the board nor his hand. But you must bluff if you want to win the pot. The question is, is it better to shove or make a seemingly value bet, hard to call, like you try to extract maximum value and not want to lose value with shoving? I go for the second most of the time and it works wonders. I choose my bluff to be big enough to not get called but not that big that it will hurt my stack if it get called. I believe shoving translated into two things, nuts or bluff, so somebody would be more eager to call if he suspects a bluff. But bluffing a value bet takes the bluff out of the mind of your opponent and he just thinks about if its +EV to call or not. Am I right? Whats your thoughts on this? [/QUOTE]