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[QUOTE="Lofwyr, post: 1627185, member: 65235"]
@stu - I agree with everything you're saying except the part where that all somehow makes c-betting not bluffing.  A cbet is very often a [I]thin[/I] bluff that is made very profitable because it collects dead money very well.

On your example...what if you raise with 78s from the BTN, got a flat from the blinds and saw that A93 board.  It's a great spot to cbet and a huge portion of the hands villain will fold are technically ahead of your 78s.  Obviously they're still calling with made hands, but you [I]very rarely[/I] fire a bluff hoping to get the top end of their range to fold.  Usually you bluff to get some bottom/middle part of their range, that still has you beat, to go away.

I guess the ultimate way to think of it is that you almost never want to see your cbets getting called.  That almost certainly classifies the bet as a bluff and not as a value bet.

Regardless, this is mainly an issue of semantics.  The main point I was getting at is that the things you use to evaluate profitable c-bet spots are typically used to evaluate profitable bluffing spots as well: board texture, villain's hand range vs. calling range, image, position, etc. All these factor heavily into whether a bluff is going to be +EV. Incidentally, they are the same things you tend to look at when deciding if a c-bet is going to be +EV.  Thus, studying cbetting will aid you in developing a sense of when to bluff.  Follow up study of two barreling is likely to help a lot too.
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