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Message: [QUOTE="Nathan Williams, post: 1869255, member: 83632"] Ya I totally hear you Rudy and agree for the most part. I think winrates are always changing so I am always hesitant to put a number on what is or is not attainable at any limit. But there is no question that the games have gotten much tougher in recent years and that small sites like Merge might even be worse off due to all the regs kind of being herded there and this perception perhaps among the fish that online poker is illegal and/or problems depositing. The ROW does feel for you guys and wish you could all come back to Stars etc. I do think that there is an incredible amount of weak play at these lowest limits though that can be taken advantage of. You will get played back at a lot more at NL25 and higher where the players are quite a bit more capable. But at NL10 and below there are a lot of regs that really don't have any idea what they are doing besides playing tight. That really is their whole strategy "play tight." I have made a lot of videos for DTB at NL10 and below and I am not allowed to play more than 4 tables at once. So it forces me to focus and really look for the highest EV and player specific line. I always play LAG because I have more time to think and my results have been outstanding almost every time. Definitely approaching or above double digit winrates at NL5 and NL10 I believe. At NL2 I don't even want to say because nobody would believe me. It was triple digits in the last video series that I made last month. Now I do table select while making them and it is a small sample but I think the point remains. Big winrates are still attainable at these limits. You just need to play a different style these days. Now my book is geared towards beginners and novices. I don't want them to go out and play like a maniac. I think it is a bad idea for many reasons. Probably the most important being mental. A lot of newer players do not react well to adversity (when the cards go bad on you). And if you play a LAG style, when you run bad, it is really, really bad. All and all, do I think that the winrates attainable in today's games playing a perfect LAG style are close to where they were in the hay day of poker 5 years ago? No. But I don't think they are as far apart as some people think they are. And even at higher limits as well. I know many people that are beating the NL25 deep games on Stars for well over 5BB/100 and some approaching 10BB/100 over big samples. [/QUOTE]

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