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Message: [QUOTE="HooDooKoo, post: 2501625, member: 102827"] 1. No, Scourrge --- the point of this thread is to discuss whether live play is "softer" than online play, not to compare the relative "softness" of online sites (which you have done). I'm not interested in debating the relative softness of online sites, so I chose to abandon that discussion. 2. I wasn't lashing out. I just think that your statement: "There isn't always quick turnover. I've sat on plenty of tables with at least 3 or 4 of the same players for 100+ hands, and often if I'm patient, 400+ hands on 2 or 3 of them." doesn't say anything useful. Sorry. 3. I didn't miss the point of any of your posts. I just don't (necessarily) agree with them. 4. Finally, I didn't say that I'm not interested in increasing my win rate at Bovada. I said I'm not interested in doing so by utilizing a HUD. -HooDooKoo [/QUOTE]