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Message: [QUOTE="LukeSilver, post: 2399033, member: 59099"] depends what sort of concepts your talking about, ive played games like this before the way to beat these games is annoying but, simply ABC tight poker and bluff rarely if ever. that works but yeah it can be frustrating. I assume your referring to things like range merging and sophisticated bluffs/semi bluffs. these concepts can and do still work against more serious players, however the game is always evolving and what worked yesterday may not work so well today. [/QUOTE]