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Message: [QUOTE="OzExorcist, post: 2612999, member: 23910"] *le sigh* I'll begin at the top I guess... The cut card serves two major purposes: one is to prevent dealing from the bottom of the deck. The other, much more practical, one is that it stops the bottom card on the deck from accidentally being exposed as the dealer moves the hand holding the deck stub. I'm not going to say that there are [b]no[/b] real casinos anywhere in the world that will let you cut the deck if you ask, because I obviously haven't been to all of them, but I'd be very surprised if you could find one. Generally speaking, in a casino the only cards you should be allowed to touch during a hand are the ones that are deal to you. I'd be [b]more[/b] suspicious that a player was cheating if they wanted to cut the deck in a casino. And I'd probably up and leave straight away if the casino actually let them do it. N'yeah... read the quote again. It says "some players also [b]consider[/b] the cut to be lucky". The fact that there are people stupid enough to [I]think[/I] that is neither here nor there. The cut exists for deck randomisation and as a measure of game security in self-dealt games. No, I absolutely would not. If it's been shuffled, a deck that has a perfect distribution of all four suits (not suites - those are fancy hotel rooms) in each half of the deck is no more or less random than one that, after shuffling, has the cards in any other order. In fact, if you did somehow come up with a shuffle procedure that perfectly evenly distributed the suits throughout the deck it would be LESS random than an ordinary shuffle that doesn't care what cards end up where. DUCY? I'm not at all sure what you mean buy "shuffling techniques". A randomly ordered deck is a randomly ordered deck, regardless of whether it was shuffled by hand using physical cards, or ordered by an RNG in a computer. Just for the lulz though: there [B]was[/B] a site (I dunno if it ever actually launched or was successful) that said it was going to use a physical deck of cards, shuffled by a machine, as the seed for its RNG. It was clearly marketed to the [I]"online poker is rigged / I'd be a winning player if the RNG didn't keep screwing me / online poker is so unnatural compared to live poker"[/I] market. Here's the fun part: someone smarter than me on another forum did the math to prove that its results were far less random than an ordinary RNG shuffle, and the system was therefore inferior. This thread may interest you BTW: [url]https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-goals-challenges-wins-46/rigged-megathread-all-rigged-roads-lead-228298/[/url] In a brick and mortar casino? No, nobody would ever continuously shuffle in a poker game. It'd result in a less secure game (cards could be flashed) and it'd slow things down needlessly. And you couldn't simply reuse the deck without shuffling because observant players would know what order at least some of the cards would be in from the previous hand (their own cards, board cards, any other cards turned up at showdown). For example, if you folded 3s 7c the previous hand and you got 3s again the next hand, you could reasonably surmise that one of the players next to you received 7c. As for why they'd use a continuous shuffle online... eh, my question is why not? It makes no practical difference to the outcome of the hand and it's theoretically more secure than having an ordered deck. If someone somehow managed to hack the site's software so they could see the preordered deck they'd know what was coming next - whereas that's not possible with a continuous shuffle. If I remember correctly, the classic examples were Poker Stars and Full Tilt - I believe Stars used to use a preordered deck, while Full Tilt used "continuous shuffling". I don't know if that's still the case post-Black Friday. A serious question: do you think it's a problem that online poker doesn't use burn cards? LOL - no, I promise you it won't. The rigtards would be just as loud as ever even if you did allow them to "cut" the deck. [/QUOTE]

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