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Message: [QUOTE="Grossberger, post: 1515329, member: 55797"] Ok first really hard to read somones pupils for several reasons #1 if they are wearing sunglasses # 2 If I'm sitting in seat 2-3 and they are in seat 8-9 no way I can see that far across the table to see what their pupils are doing. Where do you get that if someones feet are pointing towards the pot they are going to fold and if away from the pot they are going to call I don't see any corilation with those. I think the thing you have to remember is when your playing live probably 85-90% of the people playing are not faking tells I can honestly say I have never even given a thought of trying to fake tells and I have played live for 10 years. I think the the best advice is to pay attention to how players play certain hands and remember that so when you see them play a hand the same way you have an idea where they are. Paying attention to what players do is most important heres an example of what I saw a guy do and made the correct read because of it. Guy was 3 players to my left and had the chip lead by far he had been playing very well and when he bet he usually had it I got into a hand with him that went like this: I was BB for $600 action folded to him and he raised 3x BB to $2400 SB calls I look down at 44 so I call Flop comes 2 2 K check check he C-bets and makes it $3500 SB folds I call thinking I'll see another card I had about 38k in chips, turn comes another K I check and he checks quick river brings J I once agin check hoping he checks and has like AQ he gathers some chips together to the tune of about $5500 and starts to put them in but pulls back looks at his cards and adds another $3000 to the stack then puts it in. I stop and replay the hand for a minute then it hits me why would he start to put in 5500 and then add 3000 after looking at his cards????????? The only thing that hit me was that he didn't feel I would fold for 5500 and thought I would fold if he made it 8500 so he didnt have any part of that board and I said call and quickly flipped over my 44 and he indeed had AQ. By watching the player put chips in I noticed him make the "balk" and I read it right. [/QUOTE]

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