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Message: [QUOTE="Elie_Yammine, post: 1519239, member: 65473"] You will never have an absolute truth in tells and that's a fact! Cuz everything you stated here is1)now known to us and can be faked, 2)not applicable to everyone.Why? Cuz people can be stressed if they have a good hand AND if they are bluffing...So what's the difference?+ Good players lie to themselves when bluffing and actually believe they have the hand they're representing so their behavior would be a false one for you to read from. And a lot of this stuff might be psychologically correct but it depends on the background and the culture...NOTHING is 100% sure!I might have a habit of putting something in my mouth when I am winning whereas my friend does this when he's bluffing. So again, how can you be absolutely sure of any reads when people can fake them, or give out the wrong info, or obliviously give their "wrong" emotions in response to both bluffing and winning?You just can't! You can however play tight for some time and watch every hand closely and watch how each particular person acts before folding,calling, raising a certain amount, showing their bluffs(if they do),going all in, and when they show down their hands...And you might be involved too if you have the nuts or if you're not too committed. After that you pick up on the players and you'll have to see who's capable of faking their tells and who's not, of course some trial and error is in order(but not always by you). And after an hour or so, you could have reads on the whole table(and hopefully made some money or lost very little), and you should be sure of them, so you can now proceed to make full advantage of them! I read many posts and articles on live tells and such and it might be sometimes useful on some persons, however, I find that my technique is always useful and gives me very good results...That's why I'm so much better live than online ;). I actually have much more information than I have online :D(there's only timing,bet sizes,and previous action...). That being said, every informative post is a good post! And you actually had a very good conversation in return :)! [/QUOTE]

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