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Message: [QUOTE="LukeSilver, post: 1286430, member: 59099"] I think it also depends on whether your in the money or not to. A lot of people say in mtts u have to play for the win to be profitable. However I disagree I think it depends on circumstances. obviously if you only play for making the bubble your gonna lose out in the long run as price pools are more weighted towards the top. However if your short stacked near the bubble you might be better of on this occasion just playing for the bubble money. in which case you want to preserve your stack to pass the bubble and it really shouldn't be called with rags. On the other hand if your passed the bubble my calling range would be wide as I am now playing to win not for the next prize pool figure and you are getting good odds. I would call with suited connectors ace rag any pair and any two face cards but would still fold 9 2. Of cause this is assuming your in the bb. I had an extreme example of this earlier today when after shoving close to the bubble on the button with a10 suited with about 12 bb i got called by the small blind who had aq i was left with just under 1bb but got back to 4bb with the bubble very close my friend was telling me on msn I had to gamble am i really going to throw away a shot at winning the tournament just to make the money. answer yes I don't really have much of a shot the tournament buyin was $109 in this case I just want to get my buyin back. long story short my friend was an idiot and I doubled up in the bb when someone with a5 shoved on me and i had caught JJ a miracle for the situation, it basically saved my ass and i eventually won $188. the point I am making is mtt tournaments are not just go for the win every single time, when I start if I wasn't planing on fighting for final table then i shouldn't enter, but here the win was no longer realistic and to hell with pot odds. generally though it depends on the situation short stacked close to the bubble hold on don't gamble anywhere else i would call with a wide range. [/QUOTE]

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