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Message: [QUOTE="Sven Deuceman, post: 1722439, member: 88068"] ..it really is hard to start from scratch. however the return in playing skill is a complete x factor. the patience and discipline this brings will help you when you flat out at a level and more so when you need to drop down. now i know we all want to make money doing this (duh it's poker) and setting yourself goals (i wanna be the next durrr) is definately needed (btw i don't that was just an example), however the key question is your commitment to the game. are you a life long poker player? do you study? do you play live as well? if you answer no to these questions then you are really just trying to get rich comfortably and that only happens to people named hilton. keep grinding and one day you will turn around and see how far you have come. [/QUOTE]