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Message: [QUOTE="Leo 50, post: 1748403, member: 24367"] I think the majority of the younger players are more students of math and a majority of the old timers rely on feel, and reading the situations. But if you watch some of the more successful younger guys, Durr, Mercier, Galfond etc. you will see them defy the math to push someone off a hand. Making the 'c' bet just because they can stack wise or even firing the 3rd and 4th bullet on a stone cold bluff. As someone who by age is an old timer (60) who has been playing poker for so many years I do find myself going with my gut many times. Math is a necessity for a successful player but guts, instincts and the ability to read a player sure don't hurt. :cool: [/QUOTE]