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Message: [QUOTE="LukeSilver, post: 2918191, member: 59099"] you know in regards to bluffs i have sat at tables where people will never call with anything less then a set if a straight or flush is possible. if you have position a bluff can make a lot of sense here. I have also been at tables where your shove will get called down by third pair. whilst I am sure there could be an optimal value bet/bluff ratio for GTO if you want to do well at the game you need to assess it to the situation. how likely to call down are your opponents. what is your table image if you even have one (some players are that absent) how believable is this spot for you to have it? how likely are your opponents to recognize that you should or should not have it in this sot. i more decide to bluff on my feel of the table/opponent then a pre defined hand chart scenario. [/QUOTE]