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Message: [QUOTE="Ragequit, post: 4465149, member: 319301"] QQ needs to be raised solidly. Especially multiway as they are going to hate flopping K and A high boards. The limpers and callers also need to be punished while also building a big pot. I'm not sure if shipping it over the top is always going to be the right play. Yes you'll thin the field etc and maybe get all folds but you could also be denying yourself a lot of value. For me, I'll most likely take this line in a cash game but would be far more cautious in a tournament. Generally KK+ wants to ship it here. QQ is looking to make a big raise and get heads up for some postflop value. If they come over the top I will consider folding against some Tags and Nits. With JJ i'm open raising strongly and 3 betting with this hand and might possibly flat a 4 bet if my opponent's range is unusually bluff heavy. But I'm never 4 betting and certainly not shipping multiway. [/QUOTE]