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Message: [QUOTE="memok, post: 1100476, member: 18725"] Ojs in jail Clinton was the best president of my generation. The kenndy name went to shit when everyone found out about JFK. Kids dont need to look up to poker players to find a good role model. Phelps still has millions in endorsments. The only time you see a poker player is on espn or another tv network tourny. Poker players are not athletes. yes they have a skilll and compete against other people but they are not athletes. If the worst thing hellmuthe(sp) ever did was call some one an idiot on TV, than he is still just a pker player. Dont compare any poker player to an athlete [/QUOTE]