Do you think their are many players ashamed/embarrassed to admit their losses?

SpookMBluffwell · Mar 4, 2014

Definately, there are some who hide their losses just like an alchoholic hides his drinking! Thats when you know it has become a problem.

SpookMBluffwell · Mar 4, 2014

LgBassMan said:
I believe that when a player cannot admit they are a losing player they are in some sort of delusional state. By that I mean they do not want to admit that they are not 'good' per say or fail to realize that there are areas of their game (or their game in whole) that need(s) major improvement.

As for myself I am a losing player, I have never played to make vast amounts of money or play for a living. I have played online since 2005 and during that time I was the type of person to deposit and play the Sunday Million a few Sundays a year, or deposit a large amount of money and blow through games that ate up 20% of my BR each. I have always played just for the enjoyment of playing without ever focusing on improving my game.
To protect against the question which I know will come to mind: "How could you play for so long, so many games and never improve?"- I never practiced BRM, I would always deposit and play it out, deposit and play it out, always playing games way outside of my bankroll and stepping up against players much better than myself. It's hard to improve on my game when I'm not giving myself much of a chance to do so.

Recently I decided to chalk-up my losses, stop the large tournament/high risk play and start to focus on improving my game. That's the reason I came to this forum- to look for some direction, support, education and advice and this is just going to be the start of my revamp.

I don't mean to turn your thread into a 'look at me', my point is that if those players that can't admit that they're losing players took a step back and admitted it to themselves than they too would possibly reach out and start to improve their games.

The graph I am working to turn around:

Thats awesome and I am EXACTLY the same way, but Im ghoing to start BRM because I do get a little nauseated when I think of the times I was up a thousand bucks or maybe more and I just kept pushing my money into tourn eys I had no business playing!

SpookMBluffwell · Mar 4, 2014

Cephas said:
Its like the slot machine says you won 200 coins. No I lost 300 because I played 500 coins

True I tend to forget the deposits here and there that didn't go anywhere...

Arjonius said:
I think there are plenty who are unwilling to state their losses. To some extent, I can appreciate this in that how much a person has lost is basically no one's business but their own. What I don't get is taking a big step beyond that by lying about being a smaller loser, breakeven or even a winner. And even worse, I suspect some lie to themselves about this too.

NO doubt, I think there are MANY players who won't even admit losses to themselves

Peteyweestro · Mar 4, 2014

People who worry about their table image probably wouldn't want to let their losses be public info. If you are the type that plays ABC poker and is worried that someone will say you made a "donk" play or that you are a donk player you surely won't announce your losses because only "donks" don't profit right? I personally find it funny that some are so concerned about what others think, sorry if i offend any pro's out there but the cards are my own to play how i want if you think i am a donk as long as i cash "WHO CARES", lol.

ariolis30 · Mar 4, 2014

interesting thread so far

this actually has turned out to be a pretty interesting thread and getting different viewpoints on ego, table image and how the standard poker player thinks in regards to "losings". i remember when PTR first came out there was a lot of people that said they were winners then you would look them up and they had to change theyre story all of a sudden. regs would get so defensive. lol not me though when i went on my epic downer i took it pretty well and wasnt ashamed or embarrassed about it either but others.... its a different story lol

GGC2912 · Mar 4, 2014

I am Always Losing

But its a learning curve, cant say I'm a bad player but I play bad mostly

misko · Mar 5, 2014

People dont like to lose in any game or sport,it's human nature.
Its natural to not want to admit when we lose on poker.

sleepymike · Mar 5, 2014

I'm ashamed to admit my losses, but I will if asked. Shame should be a motivator.
Not the one a person should strive for, but when a person feels shame they should work to rectify it.
Not quite like "what doesn't kill us...", but along them lines.

Leprekahn · Mar 6, 2014

zEric7x said:
Personally it doesn't bother me so much. It made me see I am not as good as I thought I was. I am down like 30 buy ins due to bad 6 max play. I know if I ever play that format to be a lot more careful and I can now understand some of my leaks and (maybe) fix them. That is I ever stop being stubborn.

I think stubbornness is a good trait to have in poker...as long as you're stubborn about the right things...like not letting tilt effect your game

cotta777 · Mar 12, 2014

This thread got interesting lol.

I think for me the turning point was letting go of dreams and disconnecting my emotions and desire to want to be the best need to win tournaments..

my only focus now as a poker player is to make the best decisions when im beat saving myself money which equates to my yearly salary say for example having the discipline to fold aces post against a tight player post flop whos 4bet shuv. If tjst typical situation comes
up 1000 times in a year and 80% of the time min your beat your losing 8000 to every 2k gained.

Ultimately I dont want to make a living I just want to keep seeing gains and if and when the times is right to play full time I will instinctively know and feel Im capable

dj11 · Mar 12, 2014

Simple thread question deserves a simple answer.

YES.

sotakid80 · Mar 12, 2014

yes, i know plenty of people who dont, but i do and dont mind it.

avjul66 · Mar 14, 2014

It´s part of human nature .Glow when you win and duck when you lose even more at poker where bluff plays such a big role
No one wants to portray himself a loser

mange1234 · Mar 14, 2014

Don't bother me. lol

cotta777 said:
Just a thought,

I know poker for alot of serious players is an image thing and at times egotistic regarding making the wrong plays losing money, no one wants to be the donk or be the player who gets ridiculed for calling a horrific hand and playing the hand in a donkish way , Also most players think they are good players
some of us cant or dont want to believe it (that were not as good as want to believe) or We will be missled into false sense of ability = like
'I made a really bad play but I know I shouldn't of done it' there for its ok,
this in my oppinion is slightly dilusional and by knowing poker inside out is in some cases not good enough to be a great player.
you have to be able to think under pressure and control your emotions and aswell as being fluent with your creativity and reactions, alot of us all have these traits and that why we believe we are great...
but the bottom line is being able to do this day in day out is the only way you will ever be able to make a luxury life from poker,

and oh yeah,
basically what I was saying . lol.

I wouldn't be surprised if their are alot of players who dont want to admit that they go broke, and could be spending excessive amounts,
or basically stuck in a ruck majority of the time ,

for me my ultimate goal was to get rich you soon learn even being good is sometimes not enough, without the whole package including home life, routine situation - etc

It does not bother me for anyone to know when I lose, because I don't fool mysel, and know I am an average to less than average player.

If one does not want anyone to know they have lost, it indicates they want peeps to think they are a good player. lol

Or, that is my opinion.

Good luck, on and off the felts,

mike

micalupagoo · Mar 14, 2014

Im barely above break evenish,
but have lost 10 yrs of my life, does that count?

and Im sure the insane amount of losers out there won't admit it
everyone thinks there a winner

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