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Message: [QUOTE="starting_at_the_bottom, post: 2009420, member: 93042"] "An ak shove into an under board is not a donkey play" Care to explain why not? To some extent it depends on stack sizes, and if your only chucking in say £2 into a £10 pot its not terrible. But if you shove £9 into a £5 pot its freaking awful. When you shove AK into a low pot, what worse hands do you expect to call? And before you say draws. Look at this. AcKh 52% TcQc 48% 2c5c8h Basically when people shove AK into a small pot, they are pretty much saying "I dont really know what to do next, and I sure dont want to fold this lovely starting hand, so im just going to shove and hope" I love seeing people lose when they shove AK at air. Its like they get punished for being stupid. Why shove when a strong continuation bet will work for much less risk. [/QUOTE]